That was directed toward Eagle but it still stands

Pills sell man

I know the difference. But a Therapist has to sign you off to the psychiatrist at least in my state.

ahh, well I suspect I am, either way they tried to prescribe me ADHD meds after one session where they did most of the talking

Yeah that's a shitty therapist

people want lazy band aid solutions to problems, so pills numb you down so that you don't hurt

yup

exactly, and those pills cause long term damage after a while. I'm lucky I got off them after a year.

I think mental illness can be managed and a lot of them can be solved by putting in a ton of work and effort in fixing shit

@EmptyEagle I totally hear you about your parents calling mgtow a misogynistic group. My certified peer support specialist jokingly calls it the he man woman haters group or whatever that club from the little rascals is called. It kind of irks me because it's like she can't be bothered to understand where i'm coming from and how mgtow helps me simply because we're red-pilled to a lot of life but especially female nature. We don't simp for them so she has issues with it it's like. And i think it's a little unprofessional of her.

@Sigma I'd be inclined to agree with you but I have schizoaffective disorder and without meds I dissociate and hallucinate

you get addicted to pills and you have to depend on them. you don't take those pills you can't function

@ToastMcGhost I got diagnosed with that shit a few years back too

But they could have done a better job

Do you dissociate and hallucinate?

@GingerSnaps if you do not have a shrine to pussay it automatically means you hate it with a passion

uhh, My brain operates in a different reality and i go delusional. No hallucinations

i may have a more mild case

so i can somewhat function normally

@ToastMcGhost As much as the pills helping you is a good thing, it's imo very important to try and find a way to do without it, keep looking

some people genuinely need pills

not everyone's brain is wired the same

CBT may be worth looking into. Exercise and physical activity makes me feel school

you cant will some things to stop being

CBT?

The problem is, there are a few mental illnesses with no other solution than to take pills atm.

I can try to go without meds and keep a knife in my hand for when nonexistent people come to attack me because I possess some weird serum that I didn't know of and my body isn't really mine, but I prefer meds

they don't know where Schizo type disorders come from or how to cure them

@ToastMcGhost your problem is youre just not maintaining frame

Depression is sometime a result of life circumstance, and by those people fixing their life up, they get better and overcome it

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@Reaper Yeah, apparently. Ironically though i have a female friend that empathizes with mgtow. She's been soaking up mgtow philosophy herself. It's quite intriguing and bewildering.

@ToastMcGhost I mean trying to improve yourself from within, maybe you ll never be able to do without pills, maybe you ll find a way to need em less and less

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lmfao "not maintaining frame"

bro no fucking way can I maintain frame when I'm thinking i have hitmen after me...fuck that

They do know where schizo disorders come from, it's your brain accidentally releasing the chemicals into your brain that cause dreams while sleeping

It depends on the therapist, and if your problem is fixable with meds. I had suicidal depression for 13 years. Meds never helped because it wasn't a chemistry problem. Therapists didn't help either. I only ever got basic symptom based advice (exercise, go out more) which never addressed my core issues.
The not obvious advice was always worthless. I am doing great now, but therapy and meds did nothing for me.
The problem was the source of my despression was I wanted female validation (to keep it simple) and meds couldn't fix that, and the best I got was 'lower your standards.' (At the time I was still egalitertian so I was looking for a girl more in line with male compotency.)
I don't doubt that therapy and meds help many people but if the problem is not in brain chemistry pills wont help and one of the big things I learned from watching Spetznaz is that men and women actually need different kinds of therapy help and I have not seen a therapist that treats like that after interviewing 5. So I suspect they are rare if not illegal in the US. Sorry for the long ass post. Thought it was worth 2 cents.