then got into martial arts to learn

@Sigma Most of the time you never have to, you just don't let yourself walk over and it doesn't have to come to punches

@GingerSnaps Depending on your personality you can go from denial to depression and skip anger. I personally had anger at the same time as depression but the depression was stronger. So I didn't seem angry much, just in small moments, but they weren't fun. I hurt a lot of feeling in that time period.

@GingerSnaps not everyone goes through rage like you I copped to most of my own mistakes so my rage was short, you may just be uber rational

and i was scared of getting in trouble by my dad, but turns out he had deal with people fucking with him and always advocated me defending myself if need be

@Reaper Yeah this is the source of the problem imo, we are taught a big lie growing up and we never see the thing comming

I spent the longest time in redpill depression and even though it's been a couple years, I still go back there from time to time. I just think it's a shitty deal

Everyone knows what they're doing until they get punched

@Gaarak yea it sucks looking back on your own actions and seeing how bad you handled things, and how easily it could have been different

@EmptyEagle @Reaper maybe you guys are right. If anything i'm struggling with the depression and denial stages. Like i really struggle with the concept of AWALT, especially finding supportive views on the matter.

I've never actually been punched unless they had boxing or mma gloves on

being punched in the face by an actual fist would hurt a bit

@Reaper I am not a "god person" but at the same time it's fascinating the "wisdom" that religion could forsee with their doctrines around that

Honestly I'm not sure you can every really get rid of either anger or depression. You just focus on something else more so it doesn't show up anymore. But stop doing that thing and you'll return to your previous state.

@Gaarak cuz women have always been like that xD

@GingerSnaps that makes sense I believe Awalt can only be accepted through the build up of personal experience nobody can convince you of awalt with convo only

yeah but the system never went down l ike this or did it ?

Bullying is almost never physical tho. If someone is running their mouth and you hit them, you're going to jail as an adult. So really you gotta have a sharp wit and no ego. Agree and amplify

When you start to see awalt in irl it is one of the most bitter pills took me about 3-4 years after I went mgtow to see they all carry the virus to some extent, the system itself injects the uninfected

so true, and worst of all was seeing it in my family

it s mind bending

Women want the same basic things, Security, stability, Social status,

@Gaarak same, used to think my mom was a unicorn ..WRONG

they're lying if they say looks don't matter

@Reaper I'm getting closer though if anything even just if anecdotally via convo and others experiences. Shit the cconvo about youtubers and the age we live in helped me make some peace over my last break up.

they say those things are shallow, but that's what they want

men want good looking women

you can say that's shallow

but that's just selction

@GingerSnaps AWALT also affects me similarly but I just have to beat into myself that 1. Even if a nawalt exist, they would be hard to find and 2. The countries laws still exist with your nawalt. So I'm pretty much done with the idea. The MMN still nags at me a lot but I can see there isn't a point.

@Sigma depending on why it's either shallow or deep cause good looks and a good figure signal good genes for breeding.

it's how we're wired. High attraction and Social status are markers of being biologically fit

@GingerSnaps it will happen all over the place some of my biggest irl pills, we're in store lineups watching arguments or overhearing women talk to each other when they think no men are around (or don't care)

That's what i mean, from a biological standpoint and how mating is done

I don't see it as AWALT vs NAWALT, I see it as AWALT but some choose not to act on it

By definition if you found a true Nawalt you wouldnt have to care about laws

but god dayum how many are there really ? xD

men are viewed as success objects and women are viewed as beauty objects

Maybe, but it would still be in the back of my head personally.

There's a reason we call them unicorns. Unicorns don't exist...

we know that's all true and evident, but it's almost wrong to say it