also i still need to reach exalted with argussian

and reach 110 on an ally to unlock void elf

ooohhh lol

110 ally is easy

make a demon hunter

@Anti Corona Virus Suit Ragathor you cant make a nelf demon hunter unless you have a 110 ally DUMMYHEAD

https://twitter.com/EristocraticQT/status/1051369151988527105

I made an effortpost

iirc theres 3 major ethics being virtue, utilitarian and deontologist but ethics is big gay and i dont read up too much on this

i'm not familiar with deontology

oh

yes i am

rule based ethics

yea

i.e. "the age of consent is 14 so it's ok!"

good/bad because DA RULES

this is not worth considering or mentioning by any reasonable human being

i think some people like it because it fixes some various ethic questions when it comes to deciding whether a decision is good/bad but again ethics is big gay

ethics is everything

i pretty much dont care about anything else

also the thing about utilitarians reducing suffering on prisoners isnt really on the mark imo. For the most part countries are reducing their suffering not due to some utilitarian ideas but more due to more people considering prison as not punishment but as reform. A utilitarian if possible would put all the harshest punishments on to one prisoner as an example for deterrent if it meant everyone else was "good" (happy) as a way to minimize total suffering. (from what i think)

after all one of the big memes on utilitarians is that if someone kicks dust in to enough people's eyes its worth the death penalty for him

No

the reform model is utilitarian

they see "punishment" and law in general as a consequentialist control scheme

we put you in prison to contain you so you can't hurt others, and then try to reform you to reduce your suffering and the suffering you inflict

the justice model sees neither of these as important or valid

you did something wrong

so something bad should happen to you

end of rationale

the justice model is not consequentialist

it doesn't punish people because society is better if you do

or for any consequence at all

it does so because it's just

guess we are going to have to agree to disagree on this one then because i dont really see reform model as necessarily utilitarian because i think its possible that you could argue it from virtue ethics also

any consequentialist position is working under the utilitarian model

agree

reform is a consequentialist position

it is modeled as an input->action->output

the criminal is not the way we want him to be