and yea

FFXI was amazing

that's why i stopped playing it

I awakened and I reached a point in the story where it was being a hard gear check

i joined a clan then i found out that some people are slaves to their guild more than slaves in fucking rust

And I fucking hate PVP and that's their focus in there

I was part of a PVE guild, it was fun. All you needed to do was just be active. I went sea monster hunting with them from time to time which was fun

Up until one of the sea PVP guilds showed up

pvp is stinky

then again, i'm too shy to make new friends in guilds or anything

i liked ff pvp

and most of my friends didnt want to play the games, or they couldn't (specs, space, etc.)

so i think that's part of why i never got into MMOs

Tera I played up until I reached the point I needed a party to progress in non-dungeon content

in ffxi that point is almost immediately

And at the time I was the only one out of all my friends that was playing it, or that far in the game

after level 10 you cant kill anything without a party

it was super fun

the classes were not balanced at all and didnt have archetypes they had to fit so they were all super unique

bard would just sit there and constantly cast buffs

redmage was a genuine hybrid which would heal, buff, debuff, and dps

Yeah if I wasn't going hard for Dragoon in 14 I would've went redmage

blue mage had like 200 spells to choose from and could make itself into basically anything

so what u mean about ff11 is that
you have agency in building your character?

ff14 redmage is just blackmage with different colors

**Better** colors

all ff14 classes are the same just with a different skin

yeah

its lame

And a stabby stik

also ffxi had a subjob system

and they butchered blu in it

so you had two jobs at once

your subjob was capped at half your main job level

so you could be like

warrior/ninja

i literally only know the proper idea of subjobbing because of FFd20

redmage/whitemage

~~don't play FFd20, unless you like terrible balance~~

it was so cool

i was a bluemage