Message from @Kreesident-Add5DTech

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2020-01-05 23:05:48 UTC  

There's that 84 IQ at work, I guess.

2020-01-06 20:23:52 UTC  

Christ

2020-01-06 21:52:46 UTC  

wow, imagine being so tyrannical that you would go out of your way to ask such a thing.

2020-01-06 21:53:38 UTC  

would be better to just brainwash your people so such a book would not interest them, and i'm sure they do that to but they clearly have no faith in the brainwashing if they have to ask something like this.

2020-01-07 00:32:35 UTC  

Just would like to remind everyone that individualism >>>>>>>>>>> collectivism and especially social collectivism and collectivist thinking

2020-01-07 00:33:59 UTC  

Collectivism only results in people getting fucked over because they're part of a greater collective that supposedly should act as a unit of which they are judged off of and not based on the merits individuals themselves have

2020-01-07 00:34:11 UTC  

Though atomisation is a thing I agree

2020-01-07 04:52:49 UTC  

Atomization is like the core tenet of all liberalism.

2020-01-07 04:53:00 UTC  

It's their prime shibboleth.

2020-01-07 04:53:09 UTC  

Or, "libboleth" I would say.

2020-01-07 04:53:27 UTC  

Oh, only let people decide for themselves and don't interfere with anyone

2020-01-07 04:53:45 UTC  

Bitch do you like firefighters?

2020-01-07 04:53:55 UTC  

They coul djust as well let your house burn down

2020-01-07 04:54:30 UTC  

If you don't allow anyone to do anything for someone else's benefit, you get NO society.

2020-01-07 04:56:14 UTC  

It's selfish horseshit and you don't need to be a communist to save someone else's life.

2020-01-07 09:31:00 UTC  

@Jake the ExileWhat do you even mean by liberalism?

2020-01-07 09:31:18 UTC  

Do you mean all forms of liberalism or how the word is used in political circles in the US?

2020-01-07 09:31:56 UTC  

I actually agree with you with everything else you said about atomisation, I'm just confused about the part when you said 'liberalism'

2020-01-07 09:43:26 UTC  

Oh, in the US, liberalism is a defensive, antagonistic point of view that despises all forms of correction or feedback.
Their primary moral philosophy is distance, non-interaction, "you do you, I can't tell you what to do" and it's the most unifying trait of liberal thought.
Wanting to do whatever you want, so you have to let other people do whatever they want or you're the bad guy.

2020-01-07 09:43:58 UTC  

They think that "don't judge" trumps "love your neighbor."

2020-01-07 09:45:44 UTC  

They think that absolving themselves or the person they're speaking to of any responsibility or standard is the only way to prevent or resolve conflict.

2020-01-07 09:45:49 UTC  

So you meant liberalism as it is defined in the US that promotes atomisation?

2020-01-07 09:46:00 UTC  

Eh, I agree with that to a good degree

2020-01-07 09:47:47 UTC  

What's sad about it is that by enforcing this separation of influence, they are using their own influence. In saying that you can't tell them what to do, they are telling YOU what to do. They judge you for being judgmental, presuming that you are a bad actor when you have someone else's interests at heart.

2020-01-07 09:47:57 UTC  

It is a very insidious form of bigotry.

2020-01-07 09:53:20 UTC  

And they have no defense for a government in this framework other than force and status quo. They can never tell you why a good guy with a gun is any different from a policeman, and often devolve logically into hating police on this basis. They can't tell you why prison is justifiable if you have no reason to tell someone else what not to do. They're just in favor of what helps them personally.

It's the godless worldview.

2020-01-07 10:06:53 UTC  

how the word is used in the us generally forms a part of liberalism more broadly

2020-01-07 10:41:50 UTC  

Ok sooo...

2020-01-07 10:42:29 UTC  

I've heard that policies pushed by The Greens in Australia have actually contributed to the spread of the fires. Can someome elaborate on this?

2020-01-07 12:05:18 UTC  

It's California but worse.

2020-01-07 12:05:59 UTC  

The people protesting against controlled burns let brush and dead wood pile up until one day it hits a overfuelled, unhindered blaze.

2020-01-07 12:06:55 UTC  

Some have also blamed it on arson, because people want to prove that the world is on fire by setting it on fire and blaming climate change.

2020-01-07 12:07:26 UTC  

Even though it was their own refusal of controlled-burn forest management that allowed it to go this far on its own.

2020-01-07 12:16:41 UTC  

Is control-burn management actually necessary there? Over here, I have never heard of us intentionally burning forests. I assume they just get exploited for wood so well we don't really need to.

2020-01-07 12:58:01 UTC  

I'm not an expert nor a firefighter, but I think control-burning seems like a good idea.

2020-01-07 12:59:28 UTC  

I get why it's a good idea if your forests are full of dead wood and undergrowth, but ours aren't.

2020-01-07 12:59:51 UTC  

Australia is huge, though, so I excuse them not being able to tend to all of the forests.