Message from @Jokerfaic

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2019-12-03 23:19:20 UTC  

...We kind of *already have* one of the strongest currencies

2019-12-03 23:19:41 UTC  

Not to mention one that's recognized by all states

2019-12-03 23:19:41 UTC  

Congress in DC can deliberate on exclusively federal legislation or procedures, and state legislatures can do the same for their own jurisdictions

2019-12-03 23:19:51 UTC  

then it truly is a "national review day"

2019-12-03 23:20:38 UTC  

Honestly once a federal law is contradicted by the majority of states, the law should immediately come to a vote by state senators

2019-12-03 23:20:51 UTC  

I.E. Marijuana laws and similar legislation

2019-12-03 23:21:12 UTC  

or maybe to not clutter everything up, lets name a national review month. the beginning of the month, states hand their constituants a census for the state legislature, then a week later, one for the national legislature

2019-12-03 23:21:34 UTC  

Fuck those are some *optimistic* timelines

2019-12-03 23:22:09 UTC  

I want an even stronger currency

2019-12-03 23:22:18 UTC  

no, the census is to pick one act or law for that legislature to then spend an entire 24 hours reviewing

2019-12-03 23:22:29 UTC  

to be held at a much later date in the month

2019-12-03 23:22:33 UTC  

If you want a stronger currency, you need another war

2019-12-03 23:22:50 UTC  

bull fucking shit

2019-12-03 23:23:04 UTC  

Look at America's GDP during WWI and WWII

2019-12-03 23:23:19 UTC  

It's that or open a completely free market.

2019-12-03 23:23:31 UTC  

or actually bring jobs to the midwest

2019-12-03 23:23:47 UTC  

instead of completely lying about punishing those who send them away

2019-12-03 23:24:37 UTC  

people don't seem to understand, the equipment, facilities, shipping yards, factories, warehouses, those didn't fucking disappear

2019-12-03 23:24:57 UTC  

@Mersenne war is not good for the economy. It's an extrapolation of the Broken Window Fallacy

2019-12-03 23:25:04 UTC  

the jobs, as in physical tasks, are still all here

2019-12-03 23:25:35 UTC  

the only thing that's changed is who some dickhead in a suit is paying for it and where

2019-12-03 23:25:47 UTC  

@Benjamin Henry - That's a solid point. War is the catalyst for industrial revolution, albeit conflict must directly benefit the host nation for long-term yields.

2019-12-03 23:27:31 UTC  

But the increase in production will never reach a break-even point with peaceful expansion

2019-12-03 23:28:11 UTC  

Because stuff gets broken, and has to be repaired before any gains can be made

2019-12-03 23:28:31 UTC  

produce, export, deal, rinse, repeat

2019-12-03 23:29:55 UTC  

contrarywise, locate a product you need, observe how others import it and from who, observe the greatest supply at the closest range, find something they want that you have, deal, rinse, repeat

2019-12-03 23:30:31 UTC  

if you don't have it, find someone who does, deal, etc, etc

2019-12-03 23:30:34 UTC  

That's under the assumption that peaceful expansion is equally expeditious in it's development. The money contributing to repairs would have been invested in the economy regardless. War, while a plague on humanity, drives the rapid development of nations

2019-12-03 23:30:41 UTC  

then bam, suddenly you have the global marketplace

2019-12-03 23:30:53 UTC  

To be fair, unchecked growth results in collapse. The USSR being a great example of this.

2019-12-03 23:31:10 UTC  

and the past and current bubbles

2019-12-03 23:31:42 UTC  

observe the signs, corporations are already buying back their own stocks in broad daylight to artificially inflate the value

2019-12-03 23:32:25 UTC  

beware fake growth, its a very real cancer

2019-12-03 23:33:00 UTC  

@Mersenne I actually think you could get all the expansion that would generally come with war peacefully if there's a competitive rivalry between the two states

2019-12-03 23:33:15 UTC  

Without the destruction that war usually causes

2019-12-03 23:33:55 UTC  

exactly, imagine an energy race

2019-12-03 23:34:00 UTC  

It's the competition that drives advancement, not the war itself

2019-12-03 23:34:11 UTC  

Agreed. If congress properly enforced antitrust laws, you would see competition drive the market and promotion competition for the benefit of consumers.

2019-12-03 23:34:24 UTC  

imagine the US and europe competing to see who can make the most efficient fusion power

2019-12-03 23:34:26 UTC  
2019-12-03 23:34:54 UTC  

or the safest biomedical technologies