Message from @Aldomuz

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2019-12-04 23:46:23 UTC  

as in, there is more than just left and right

2019-12-04 23:46:26 UTC  

But it's just a general term

2019-12-04 23:46:26 UTC  

To describe the main political factions, it's arbitriary

2019-12-04 23:46:43 UTC  

Yes it is

2019-12-04 23:47:01 UTC  

Good god there are like a dozen defintions of liberal out there

2019-12-04 23:47:27 UTC  

But let's ignore that for a second, the democrats are still overwhelmingly socialist

2019-12-04 23:47:43 UTC  

every major candidate running supports socialist policies, and people can't even define waht socialism or universal healthcare even means as terms

2019-12-04 23:47:56 UTC  

They don't even know America has universal healthcare according to the WHO

2019-12-04 23:48:15 UTC  

They wear shirts of heroes everywhere that are mass murderers, praise fidel castro and so on

2019-12-04 23:48:40 UTC  

Meanwhile they call the other side fascist, white nationalist and millions of people blindly believe it

2019-12-04 23:48:42 UTC  

it is kind of insane

2019-12-04 23:48:52 UTC  

A liberal is someone who's not bound by traditional religious or political alignments. A socialist is someone who supports socialism. Socialism is an idea of which the means of production are collectively owned or owned by a centralized government that has a nearly classless society.

2019-12-04 23:49:18 UTC  

Bill Clinton pardoned terrorists who tried to assassinate goerge bush for God sakes

2019-12-04 23:49:25 UTC  

A liberal is someone who's not bound by political alignments

2019-12-04 23:49:28 UTC  

HAH

2019-12-04 23:49:28 UTC  

no

2019-12-04 23:49:58 UTC  

on his last day in office

2019-12-04 23:49:58 UTC  

everyone's own preffered made up term for what they think it means is kind of irrelevant

2019-12-04 23:50:05 UTC  

There are a dozen defintions even according to mariam's webster's dictionary

2019-12-04 23:50:11 UTC  

I'm just looking up definitions man

2019-12-04 23:50:13 UTC  

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2019-12-04 23:50:18 UTC  

The term is used interchangeably with lots of other terms

2019-12-04 23:50:50 UTC  

And then the left in practice vs. how it defintes itself is also different, like with feminists listing the defintion of feminism as if it automatically makes them good, or antifascists calling themselves that despite being more fascist than their enemies

2019-12-04 23:51:09 UTC  

in the end what matters is over 70% of democrats self identify as socialists

2019-12-04 23:51:13 UTC  

or being in favor of it

2019-12-04 23:51:21 UTC  

And that shows you the depths of the problem

2019-12-04 23:51:48 UTC  

The modern usage of the political terms left and right comes from the French Revolution of 1789 when supporters of the king stood to the president’s right, and supporters of the revolution to his left.

2019-12-04 23:51:58 UTC  

liberalism is left leaning

2019-12-04 23:52:07 UTC  

simply from where it came from. the origins of left and right

2019-12-04 23:52:17 UTC  

": a person who is liberal: such as
a: one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways
bcapitalized : a member or supporter of a liberal political party (see LIBERAL entry 1 sense 6)
c: an advocate or adherent of liberalism especially in individual rights"

2019-12-04 23:52:25 UTC  

they are multiple definitions for the same term

2019-12-04 23:52:26 UTC  

yes

2019-12-04 23:52:30 UTC  

and liberalism is left

2019-12-04 23:52:41 UTC  

it could be someone who advocates for individual rights, or it could be that it's someone who is just a part of a "liberal" party

2019-12-04 23:52:49 UTC  

you can use the term to mean many things

2019-12-04 23:53:00 UTC  

calling the democrats, democrats, doesn't mean they actually are democratic, right

2019-12-04 23:53:04 UTC  

it's just a name

2019-12-04 23:53:05 UTC  

Sheesh

2019-12-04 23:53:10 UTC  

I guess that is my main point here

2019-12-04 23:53:16 UTC  

There is nothing liberal about the modern day left. They're full on authoritarians

2019-12-04 23:53:20 UTC  

there is only so much value in a word, in a name