the core tenants of liberalism do not change

the original meaning only applies to the French and thus anything outside of the French wouldn't be left or right

So no, nobody uses the original meaning

its just obfuscation

nobody uses the original meaning

Of course, the foundation of the modern day left originated from liberalism. A more open minded ideology gave birth to the monstrosity of modern day progressivism which is suppose to be "open minded".

It changes over time

The terms change over time is my point

see now that was a comment that i agree with @Aldomuz

it's literally just a pointless descriptor, we could call them bungaloos for all we want

So the bungaloos are 77% socialist

no people are attempting to change the definition for their gain

but those who actually know the roots of these terms and human history

we see right through it.

And the majority of the Bungaloos are in support of socialist ideas, and the majority of their candidates are now socialist

Even the reasonable one's like Andrew Yang are completely fucking nuts

They lack an ounce of reason or common sense, so far go in to their own ideology they believe they can will things in to relaity

Free 12,000 dollars for everyone, it's insane

That's the most reasonable peopel on the left

its not useless if we go back to what it really means. its only made useless by those trying to warp its meaning and definition

I mean, the Bungaloos

but like i said those who know the historical context and etc

see through that

And the Bungaloos are gaining power

Historical context is just the french

nobody uses the original defintion it's expanded beyond that obviously

they are trying to

and its failing lol

As I will say, the "not bound by traditional or political alignments" is the "open mindedness". So you agreed with me from the beginning. Though I will admit it was not clear enough as it seems.

And the French revolution lead to Napolean taking over and murdering thousands of people so if that's liberalism then it's awful anyways

and actually pushing people to the right

funnily enough

So if we are going by original defintions then liberals are mass murderers who want to kill the elites?

Basically are socialists?

who put another dictator in charge

yea fundamentally either that

or they want freedom that eventually leads to societal collapse

the lack of order.

well the irony is a lack of authority tends to lead to more authoritorianism as power vaccumes tend to lead to someone more powerful taking over

So I guess it all goes around in a circle

But nonetheless my point is, the terms are used in nebelous ways