Message from @calman21

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2019-12-06 07:57:17 UTC  

I say we make all the low skill workers become Youtubers.....wait a minute...

2019-12-06 07:57:28 UTC  

The money isnt coming from nowhere

2019-12-06 07:57:42 UTC  

It just recirculates

2019-12-06 07:58:04 UTC  

thats fair,

2019-12-06 07:58:25 UTC  

That is significantly less authoritarian than saying fuck you you cant use AI because sentimentalism

2019-12-06 07:59:42 UTC  

I am saying that we could choose against automation if it led to outcomes which we found bad for society

2019-12-06 08:00:02 UTC  

Thats still subjective

2019-12-06 08:00:53 UTC  

like, if the bottom of society all could stop working and it made them unhappy to feel unneeded, then you could keep the low skill jobs open

2019-12-06 08:01:23 UTC  

but in this particular scenario, they could still go off to do more fulfilling things and have some money

2019-12-06 08:02:41 UTC  

the feeling of contributing to society by being productive and happiness being tied together are not subjective, and that is what I would measure 'unhappiness' on

2019-12-06 08:03:24 UTC  

Low skill jobs aren't fulfilling to the overwhelming number of people

2019-12-06 08:03:27 UTC  

well yes, but that'd be a choice of an employee versus a choice of a boardroom member

2019-12-06 08:03:52 UTC  

yes

2019-12-06 08:04:17 UTC  

but there's only a superficial difference between the two

2019-12-06 08:04:21 UTC  

employee can choose he wants to work a position all he likes, if the higher ups decide to go with automation, the employee is fucked

2019-12-06 08:04:31 UTC  

The employee doesnt get to determine company policy

2019-12-06 08:04:45 UTC  

Unless its an employee owned company

2019-12-06 08:05:20 UTC  

I'm certain millions of americans would have rather not lost their jobs to automation or imported foreign labour, given the choice

2019-12-06 08:05:28 UTC  

hence, they weren't consulted

2019-12-06 08:05:34 UTC  

But see GM for why employees shouldn't get to dictate policy

2019-12-06 08:06:34 UTC  

I was about to bust if u were going to argue for employee ran companies <:thinkcide:462282415549841409>

2019-12-06 08:07:18 UTC  

dad certainly wasn't pleased to hear he's going to be laid off at the end of the year

2019-12-06 08:07:32 UTC  

i only need one word as an argument

2019-12-06 08:07:35 UTC  

whistleblowers

2019-12-06 08:07:43 UTC  

and you know why he's being laid off?

2019-12-06 08:07:52 UTC  

his contract has become too expensive

2019-12-06 08:07:55 UTC  

Why hire him when Raj from indua will work fir 3/4s his wages

2019-12-06 08:08:29 UTC  

anyway, i did a single whole argue, now I am tired, goodnight

2019-12-06 08:08:33 UTC  

I don't know how many fucking times I have to repeat myself. for good or ill, the coporation's first priority is increase net profit

2019-12-06 08:08:43 UTC  

^

2019-12-06 08:08:59 UTC  

like, seriously, you have no excuse for not getting this the first time

2019-12-06 08:09:06 UTC  

Anyone who doesn't understand that is willfully naive

2019-12-06 08:09:47 UTC  

well Raj from india more than likely doesn't have his stellar reputation in his field, but still

2019-12-06 08:09:48 UTC  

Well I gotta drive home bois

2019-12-06 08:09:56 UTC  

Who cares

2019-12-06 08:10:10 UTC  

He works for less

2019-12-06 08:10:31 UTC  

I dunno, I've seen corps fight over dad's contract

2019-12-06 08:10:41 UTC  

he's a known name

2019-12-06 08:11:00 UTC  

in that particular market, I guess

2019-12-06 08:11:30 UTC  

it depends if the work actually needs to get done

2019-12-06 08:11:37 UTC  

that being said if for whatever reason after the turn of 2020 I dissappear, shit didn't go so well