Message from @Dearthvader
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like 400,000 deaths a year from cigarettes, 10's of thousands from opiods, although to be fair, cut with other drugs
that's like 30 times more than murder
it will become more prolific and thus effect more people; smuggling may go down, but crime from smuggling is miniscule in comparison to the effect of the drugs themselves
I should be clear, i tend to be an everything or nothing kind of person.
so either we ban all drugs and booze or we let the market deal with it just like any other consumable.
unless we can come up with a clear line that makes one diffrent form the other.
I get the mentality, I myself am just more nuanced xD
more blurry
The solution to be fair is not completely cut and dry
but drugs are definetly a net bad
so where is the line between a good drug and a bad drug?
And I think that is important to know
I like that position but some things are a bit nuanced
Well, it's hard to tell, I guess uh, it depends on how harmful it is
we could judge it by it's deaths to user ratio
the government is crap at nuance, especialy at the federal level.
Personally i just think stoners are obnoxious i dont care if its chemically good or bad for you or not
in my opinion the federal governmeant isn't as bad as people think it is. State's rights is sort of a sham. If we didn't add any extra state laws on top of federal laws, we'd actually have less opression. If state's like California ironically followed the constitution and thus federal law, we'd problably have less oppression. Opression via state's or corporations is just as bad as by big governmeant, and in many cases like with the constitution has been a protection against oppression
you're more likely to be oppressed by local governmeants like California or New York than bigger governmeants like the federal governmeant
I think people are focused too narrowly on ideology instead of the practical reality
so as long as i am talking about the government it is everything or nothing.
the law also LOVES to run on precedent, so the "slippery slope" is valid to me.
Thats the way the country is supposed to run, the government holds onto a few things and the states decide the rest
```Personally i just think stoners are obnoxious```
I think regular smokers are obnoxious and very rude, but i think they should have the right to smoke like an old diesel if they want to.
Just saying im very biased
I think i have only met one smoker that was even close to polite
and i have met several
plenty will smoke in someone elses work space and never think twice about it.
and they get very mad when you tell them you have a problem with them smokeing in your work space.
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but back on drugs, I am also quite sure that most of the prescription drugs are because they can be used by junkies.
if i'm right about that then it would drive up the cost for normal people considerably.
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as far as state's rights causeing more opression, you are right with our current system but that is because it goes the wrong way so you end up with layers and layers of laws.
what would be better is if a federal law was something that all of the states agreed on rather then being something passed down form the federal level.
the US is far to diverse in land and people to rule it form a single place, trying to make it all a single state would be so much worse then it is now and there would be no room for any experimentation with new laws.
what is most anoying to me is if you look at a county voteing map you will see that the US is very much red with little bits of blue in the cities.
Yes, sorry I had some people come in for a brief moment xD
I like to use ellipses to split up my thoughts so things don't become to much of a wall of text.
State's right is a good thing inherently, but I think that in practice we end up with like state's gaining more power. I suppose, the end goal is really individual rights, so the focus should be on that. How we achieve this idk, but the constitution is certainly a good start
that makes sense
see i think the largest failing in US politics right now is that everyone cares so much about the federal level, they should mostly keep to their own state and city and leave the rest of the country alone.
Basically oppression by any source is bad. Unfettered freedom for leadership, is effectivley Tyranny, as leaders that can do whatever they want are essentially Tyrants. The power of freedom shouldn't be vested in the state's per se, but in the individual, and so if the federal government did stop california from say, vioalting the 2nd amendment, it would result in better freedom. I suppose my opinion is more along the lines of, the federal government is good for specific things, rather than always bad or good
That would work if only we didn't have so many outside forces on us, such as say China involved in businesses and whatnot, or California trying to make decisions which then effects other states, say regulating silicon volley thus by proxing effecting other people
I fully agree with that statement.
like all of it.
I know right, I've given this some thought and I've been like, hmm...