Message from @Dearthvader

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2019-12-07 01:48:02 UTC  

And honestly, the Colombian cartels were funded by Russia and the soviet union

2019-12-07 01:48:13 UTC  

it's pretty bad; China is also behind a lot of this, smuggling tons of fentanyl in to the U.S.

2019-12-07 01:48:49 UTC  

When I first heard about fentanyl I was like, damn, this drug has the potential to lead to mass death in America. Apparently we are at that point with the opiod crisis

2019-12-07 01:48:53 UTC  

well smuggleing goes away if it is something that the market is free to work on.

2019-12-07 01:49:12 UTC  

legal drugs, for example opiates, have been as much of a problem as illegal one's

2019-12-07 01:49:28 UTC  

like 400,000 deaths a year from cigarettes, 10's of thousands from opiods, although to be fair, cut with other drugs

2019-12-07 01:49:36 UTC  

that's like 30 times more than murder

2019-12-07 01:50:04 UTC  

it will become more prolific and thus effect more people; smuggling may go down, but crime from smuggling is miniscule in comparison to the effect of the drugs themselves

2019-12-07 01:50:06 UTC  

I should be clear, i tend to be an everything or nothing kind of person.
so either we ban all drugs and booze or we let the market deal with it just like any other consumable.

2019-12-07 01:50:25 UTC  

unless we can come up with a clear line that makes one diffrent form the other.

2019-12-07 01:50:28 UTC  

I get the mentality, I myself am just more nuanced xD

2019-12-07 01:50:33 UTC  

more blurry

2019-12-07 01:50:43 UTC  

The solution to be fair is not completely cut and dry

2019-12-07 01:50:49 UTC  

but drugs are definetly a net bad

2019-12-07 01:50:52 UTC  

so where is the line between a good drug and a bad drug?

2019-12-07 01:50:54 UTC  

And I think that is important to know

2019-12-07 01:50:57 UTC  

I like that position but some things are a bit nuanced

2019-12-07 01:51:07 UTC  

Well, it's hard to tell, I guess uh, it depends on how harmful it is

2019-12-07 01:51:13 UTC  

we could judge it by it's deaths to user ratio

2019-12-07 01:51:17 UTC  

the government is crap at nuance, especialy at the federal level.

2019-12-07 01:52:23 UTC  

Personally i just think stoners are obnoxious i dont care if its chemically good or bad for you or not

2019-12-07 01:52:30 UTC  

in my opinion the federal governmeant isn't as bad as people think it is. State's rights is sort of a sham. If we didn't add any extra state laws on top of federal laws, we'd actually have less opression. If state's like California ironically followed the constitution and thus federal law, we'd problably have less oppression. Opression via state's or corporations is just as bad as by big governmeant, and in many cases like with the constitution has been a protection against oppression

2019-12-07 01:52:53 UTC  

you're more likely to be oppressed by local governmeants like California or New York than bigger governmeants like the federal governmeant

2019-12-07 01:53:03 UTC  

I think people are focused too narrowly on ideology instead of the practical reality

2019-12-07 01:53:04 UTC  

so as long as i am talking about the government it is everything or nothing.
the law also LOVES to run on precedent, so the "slippery slope" is valid to me.

2019-12-07 01:53:47 UTC  

Thats the way the country is supposed to run, the government holds onto a few things and the states decide the rest

2019-12-07 01:54:14 UTC  

```Personally i just think stoners are obnoxious```
I think regular smokers are obnoxious and very rude, but i think they should have the right to smoke like an old diesel if they want to.

2019-12-07 01:54:48 UTC  

Just saying im very biased

2019-12-07 01:54:52 UTC  

I think i have only met one smoker that was even close to polite

2019-12-07 01:55:03 UTC  

and i have met several

2019-12-07 01:55:31 UTC  

plenty will smoke in someone elses work space and never think twice about it.

2019-12-07 01:56:04 UTC  

and they get very mad when you tell them you have a problem with them smokeing in your work space.

2019-12-07 01:59:18 UTC  

...
but back on drugs, I am also quite sure that most of the prescription drugs are because they can be used by junkies.
if i'm right about that then it would drive up the cost for normal people considerably.

2019-12-07 02:07:28 UTC  

...
as far as state's rights causeing more opression, you are right with our current system but that is because it goes the wrong way so you end up with layers and layers of laws.
what would be better is if a federal law was something that all of the states agreed on rather then being something passed down form the federal level.

2019-12-07 02:08:53 UTC  

the US is far to diverse in land and people to rule it form a single place, trying to make it all a single state would be so much worse then it is now and there would be no room for any experimentation with new laws.

2019-12-07 02:10:37 UTC  

what is most anoying to me is if you look at a county voteing map you will see that the US is very much red with little bits of blue in the cities.

2019-12-07 02:13:07 UTC  

Yes, sorry I had some people come in for a brief moment xD

2019-12-07 02:13:55 UTC  

I like to use ellipses to split up my thoughts so things don't become to much of a wall of text.

2019-12-07 02:14:04 UTC  

State's right is a good thing inherently, but I think that in practice we end up with like state's gaining more power. I suppose, the end goal is really individual rights, so the focus should be on that. How we achieve this idk, but the constitution is certainly a good start

2019-12-07 02:14:14 UTC  

that makes sense

2019-12-07 02:15:11 UTC  

see i think the largest failing in US politics right now is that everyone cares so much about the federal level, they should mostly keep to their own state and city and leave the rest of the country alone.