Message from @Mersenne

Discord ID: 652757612332449792


2019-12-07 06:16:51 UTC  

He could have had a backbone instead of supporting Hillary

2019-12-07 06:17:20 UTC  

@Mersenne It's Still Illegal. Turning Illegal Immigration from a Felony to a Civil offense still puts the Illegals in Jail; it just stops the family separation

2019-12-07 06:17:55 UTC  

can the civil offense still result in deportation?

2019-12-07 06:17:57 UTC  

Turning it into a civil offense prevents criminal prosecution.

2019-12-07 06:18:13 UTC  

That criminal violation is what allows for deportation in cities that refuse to cooperate with Federal ICE

2019-12-07 06:18:17 UTC  

then I guess that's a no

2019-12-07 06:18:28 UTC  

That's a hard no

2019-12-07 06:18:39 UTC  

be fair, ICE needs reformation

2019-12-07 06:18:47 UTC  

incompetant fucking yahoos

2019-12-07 06:18:57 UTC  

Absolutely true. And they need authority to deport.

2019-12-07 06:19:22 UTC  

Sanctuary cities isn't just a buzz word - it's a real crisis where local law enforcement placates communities of illegals to maintain order and discipline.

2019-12-07 06:21:36 UTC  

ICE should be abolished, lol

2019-12-07 06:21:47 UTC  

Customs and Border protection is all we need

2019-12-07 06:23:26 UTC  

ICE is Unconstitutional; many courts have ruled that they have repeatedly broken the 4th (Surveillance), 5th (Due Process), 13th (Slavery), and 14th (Due Process Equality) Amendments of the United States Constitution

2019-12-07 06:23:43 UTC  

Hell, they were only created in 2003 by the Bush Administration too

2019-12-07 06:24:02 UTC  

So what's your proposal for an alternative enforcement for those that evade Customs and Border protection?

2019-12-07 06:24:06 UTC  

They have absolutely no reason to exist and are already a mess of unconstitutional actions

2019-12-07 06:24:26 UTC  

Just let Customs and Border Protection take all the stuff, like they used to

2019-12-07 06:24:40 UTC  

They don't have Federal juristiction

2019-12-07 06:24:59 UTC  

ICE is so unnecessary that the majority of it is made up of Private Militias and Mercenaries, anyways

2019-12-07 06:25:42 UTC  

Fair point. In fact, I'll agree that ICE has committed egregious violations already cited and is comprised of alot of unstable and ill-intentioned individuals

2019-12-07 06:26:11 UTC  

However, ICE is the only agency with the authority to perform deportations. States have already demonstrated indifference, ineptitude, and incompetence in enforcing deportation.

2019-12-07 06:26:35 UTC  

Customs and Borders will do little to remove those who enter illegally.

2019-12-07 06:26:45 UTC  

Let alone those who overstay Visas

2019-12-07 06:27:43 UTC  

The majority of people detained are done so without a fair trial and are forcefully detained (which is a situation just waiting to be abused, lol)

2019-12-07 06:28:33 UTC  

You're right. And this is the problem. There's Republicans who care only for deportation, and Democrats who propose removing due process entirely.

2019-12-07 06:28:50 UTC  

We need actual reform to expeditiously allow those seeking to become citizens entry into our nation

2019-12-07 06:28:56 UTC  

Yeah, I agree

2019-12-07 06:29:09 UTC  

Though I think we should go further with Immigration reform

2019-12-07 06:29:25 UTC  

And I think the first thing to do is to Decriminalise All Drugs and Legalise Marijuana

2019-12-07 06:29:32 UTC  

That will absolutely fuck up the Cartels

2019-12-07 06:29:36 UTC  

And Big Pharma

2019-12-07 06:29:57 UTC  

Not all drugs. Some will reap havoc on major cities, like heroin as witnessed by Iran-Contra.

2019-12-07 06:30:14 UTC  

Marijuana - absolutely. It's a boon to state income tax and boosts countless medical benefits

2019-12-07 06:31:01 UTC  

While I'm disappointed by the Republicans inability to positively reform immigration, I can't back any of the Democratic candidates that seek to destroy the entire concept of citizenship.

2019-12-07 06:31:09 UTC  

I didn't say legalise; I said decriminalise, lol. There are some drugs that would reap havoc if legalised (like Fentanyl) which is why decriminalising would just turn it from a Criminal issue to a Health Issue

2019-12-07 06:31:18 UTC  

Fair point.

2019-12-07 06:32:02 UTC  

I could absolutely agree with decriminalizing users. Dealers with x amount of Class I should be criminal offenses.

2019-12-07 06:32:31 UTC  

People are gonna do drugs, regardless, so it's better to mediate the issue by giving them safe monitored areas where they can inject themselves; thus bringing overdoses to near 0 and will absolutely cripple the Cartels who currently profit off of them

2019-12-07 06:33:10 UTC  

Not necessarily - Cartels would still immensely profit from the sale of those drugs.