Message from @FitnessByHeatherHeyer

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2019-12-08 17:59:54 UTC  

It's a system that provides integrity - something our current system lacks entirely.

2019-12-08 17:59:59 UTC  

I'd like to be able to check my vote with my phone so I can verify it was recorded correctly.

2019-12-08 18:01:20 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w3_0x6oaDmI
here, this guy does a much better job of explaining it then i will.

2019-12-08 18:01:43 UTC  

Electronic voting is Cringe; all hail the Paper Ballot

2019-12-08 18:02:11 UTC  

Paper ballot is rife with vulnerabilities. E-Voting is no different, but provides the means to *validate* votes and voters.

2019-12-08 18:02:39 UTC  

I am ok with ballot's made to be counted by machines, but they should also be countable by people.

2019-12-08 18:02:59 UTC  

maybe every voting house could have an infra red flare indicating one candidate or the other

2019-12-08 18:03:16 UTC  

use the machine to quick count and sort then dobble and tripple check with people.

2019-12-08 18:03:44 UTC  

i've got an idea, let's not let dead people vote

2019-12-08 18:04:29 UTC  

Databases are the future regardless. It just makes sense to move to an E-vote model. Provide voters with PIV cards for 2-Factor auth. Let them get a printed copy of their ballot at the polls.

2019-12-08 18:04:44 UTC  

All of this saves millions, provides voter integrity, and allows you to instantly validate your district's votes.

2019-12-08 18:04:56 UTC  

until one person hacks into that database and does what ever they want to it.

2019-12-08 18:05:16 UTC  

I agree that district databases should still be separate.

2019-12-08 18:05:35 UTC  

But this isn't that hard to implement, and is lightyears better than the current system.

2019-12-08 18:05:44 UTC  

even still, that wouldn't add any security.

2019-12-08 18:06:28 UTC  

and this is a system that only is used what once a year? less?
big companies can't even launch new platforms with out tons of bugs and the ACA website was even worse.

2019-12-08 18:06:43 UTC  

I don't trust computers to do this.

2019-12-08 18:08:31 UTC  

It would require legislation similar to HIPPA or CCPA. I would trust a system that provides instant validation over an archaic paper ballot distribution that will always yield errors and be subject to exploitation.

2019-12-08 18:09:52 UTC  

As far as security, Defcon's take on current ballot systems and their wide disparity in make/model currently in place is far more terrifying that an overarching architecture.

2019-12-08 18:10:34 UTC  

People with older model phones will claim they are oppressed because the app is slower and it caused him to miss a vote

2019-12-08 18:10:53 UTC  

They couldn't listen to mumble rap and vote at the same time on the same device, this is clearly racist

2019-12-08 18:11:52 UTC  

I support the idea of being able to *check your vote* on the phone - but still required attendance at a physical location to *cast your vote*

2019-12-08 18:12:25 UTC  

How often does an update for software totaly break it?

2019-12-08 18:12:44 UTC  

You think that wouldn't happen with this system?

2019-12-08 18:13:20 UTC  

If all states work on standardized hardware - that require patching before being placed in operation - it's pretty foolproof.

2019-12-08 18:13:24 UTC  

Banks operate on the same model.

2019-12-08 18:13:37 UTC  

If you want real security put live streams at the counting places.

2019-12-08 18:14:30 UTC  

Take it back to the CIA model - Confidentiality to only be able to check who you voted for with a provided voter registration number and phone number as 2-factor auth.

2019-12-08 18:15:00 UTC  

Integrity - Systems must adhere to latest patch level, votes require registration number, votes cannot be case without auth.

2019-12-08 18:15:20 UTC  

Authorization - voters are only able to cast a ballot once registered, present at booth, and validate themselves.

2019-12-08 18:15:37 UTC  

so all the systems are the same makeing hacking rather easy and only tested full scale during a vote.

2019-12-08 18:15:55 UTC  

All systems are in a closed network - same as current models.

2019-12-08 18:15:58 UTC  

nothing is hacker prof

2019-12-08 18:16:20 UTC  

Sure - but the current paper model is *much more* easy to exploit than a distributed E-vote

2019-12-08 18:16:29 UTC  

how so?

2019-12-08 18:16:40 UTC  

you can't hack paper once it is in the ballot box.

2019-12-08 18:16:52 UTC  

Ballot harvesting, absentee ballot, votes from the deceased, miscounts ( Flordia 2001 nightmare )

2019-12-08 18:16:58 UTC  

and the people doing the counting are being watched be people form bolth sides.

2019-12-08 18:17:06 UTC  

And states having a wide disparity in voter registration requirements.

2019-12-08 18:17:26 UTC  

Shit, you could go register at your local office and exploit absentee ballots with zero technical skill.

2019-12-08 18:17:41 UTC  

That just happened in NC's 9th Congressional District