ok, and one person could do how meany of those?

all that is argueing for is removeal of the absentee ballot and improveing ID checking.

not replacement for a untested system.

Improved ID checking at the ballot requires validation. States have a shit record for this, and have remarkably different means of checking.

Some have no ID requirements at all.

all you have to do is keep track of the people while they are voteing, filter before they even get a ballot.

if you are REALLY worried make the ballots on a special paper like we do with money.

I'm not proposing a completely new system - I'm talking about taking the system *which already exists* and standardizing make/model of voter ballot boxes and databases.

I'm simply advocating for Voter ID enactment and a system of validation for districts

E-voteing is a bad idea, people are getting into just as important systems all over the place, that's why you NEVER use the same password on two sites.

Here's the problem - the same thing happens with paper ballots - you just have no means of knowing when it occurs.

and I don't trust the govenrmet to do any of that closed system crap, they are just going to buy off the shelf gear and plug it in 9 times out of 10.

but paper ballots can only be changed by being there, a computer can be changed form almost anywhere.

Unfortunately you're right. It's almost impossible to create a perfect system.

so stick with the one that doesn't scale.

I wouldn't even mind paper ballots if all states could agree on voter registration and ID requirements.

that's one of the reasons we have the electoral college.

At the very least, create a state database of registered voters and eliminate votes from the deceased.

if FL is screwing stuff up it's only FLs votes that are getting messed up, not everyone's.

again, that is a state level thing, not a federal thing.

True. Seriously though, check out the latest Defcon on voting boxes. It's eye opening what happens when you let states manage their electronic voting boxes. The hardware/software/configuration should be mandated at the Federal level.

electronic voteing should not be a thing in the first place

yea i was going to say the same thing

should be all paper

I understand how it seems like a good idea on first glance

it just adds more points of failure

and more holes that can be discovered and then exploited

well it makes more single points of failure.

and that's the important part.

ballots should be collected in paper only, and nationally there should be a Voter ID that is required upon showing up to the ballot. Then all the paper votes should be counted multiple times by different parties to ensure accuracy

yes

all of that.

and then...

after all of this

if trump loses you just make him winner anyways

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If trump loses oh lawd

if you want to have a automatic counter you can also have that to check against your human counters.

Clown world accelerated

what would be SUPPER funny is if he also wins the "popular vote" this time around, like to the point where they can't say the crap they are saying now.

that would be great