How often does an update for software totaly break it?

You think that wouldn't happen with this system?

If all states work on standardized hardware - that require patching before being placed in operation - it's pretty foolproof.

Banks operate on the same model.

If you want real security put live streams at the counting places.

Take it back to the CIA model - Confidentiality to only be able to check who you voted for with a provided voter registration number and phone number as 2-factor auth.

Integrity - Systems must adhere to latest patch level, votes require registration number, votes cannot be case without auth.

Authorization - voters are only able to cast a ballot once registered, present at booth, and validate themselves.

so all the systems are the same makeing hacking rather easy and only tested full scale during a vote.

All systems are in a closed network - same as current models.

nothing is hacker prof

Sure - but the current paper model is *much more* easy to exploit than a distributed E-vote

how so?

you can't hack paper once it is in the ballot box.

Ballot harvesting, absentee ballot, votes from the deceased, miscounts ( Flordia 2001 nightmare )

and the people doing the counting are being watched be people form bolth sides.

And states having a wide disparity in voter registration requirements.

Shit, you could go register at your local office and exploit absentee ballots with zero technical skill.

That just happened in NC's 9th Congressional District

ok, and one person could do how meany of those?

all that is argueing for is removeal of the absentee ballot and improveing ID checking.

not replacement for a untested system.

Improved ID checking at the ballot requires validation. States have a shit record for this, and have remarkably different means of checking.

Some have no ID requirements at all.

all you have to do is keep track of the people while they are voteing, filter before they even get a ballot.

if you are REALLY worried make the ballots on a special paper like we do with money.

I'm not proposing a completely new system - I'm talking about taking the system *which already exists* and standardizing make/model of voter ballot boxes and databases.

I'm simply advocating for Voter ID enactment and a system of validation for districts

E-voteing is a bad idea, people are getting into just as important systems all over the place, that's why you NEVER use the same password on two sites.

Here's the problem - the same thing happens with paper ballots - you just have no means of knowing when it occurs.

and I don't trust the govenrmet to do any of that closed system crap, they are just going to buy off the shelf gear and plug it in 9 times out of 10.

but paper ballots can only be changed by being there, a computer can be changed form almost anywhere.

Unfortunately you're right. It's almost impossible to create a perfect system.

so stick with the one that doesn't scale.

I wouldn't even mind paper ballots if all states could agree on voter registration and ID requirements.

that's one of the reasons we have the electoral college.

At the very least, create a state database of registered voters and eliminate votes from the deceased.

if FL is screwing stuff up it's only FLs votes that are getting messed up, not everyone's.

again, that is a state level thing, not a federal thing.

True. Seriously though, check out the latest Defcon on voting boxes. It's eye opening what happens when you let states manage their electronic voting boxes. The hardware/software/configuration should be mandated at the Federal level.

electronic voteing should not be a thing in the first place