Message from @Brue

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2019-12-10 01:33:34 UTC  

well

2019-12-10 01:33:40 UTC  

what do you think of this proposition

2019-12-10 01:33:56 UTC  

everyone has innate equal human value

2019-12-10 01:34:34 UTC  

‘Seed money’ to use your vocabulary

2019-12-10 01:35:19 UTC  

not gonna lie i laughed out loud

2019-12-10 01:35:22 UTC  

Just ripping on ancap stuff, keep going

2019-12-10 01:35:30 UTC  

no but for real

2019-12-10 01:35:39 UTC  

do you agree with that statement

2019-12-10 01:35:49 UTC  

"everyone has innate equal human value"

2019-12-10 01:36:01 UTC  

Nope you changed it

2019-12-10 01:36:29 UTC  

Innate value yes, equal value no

2019-12-10 01:36:30 UTC  

explain you lost me

2019-12-10 01:36:38 UTC  

okay

2019-12-10 01:36:57 UTC  

do you believe some people are more valuable than others

2019-12-10 01:37:06 UTC  

Define valuable

2019-12-10 01:37:35 UTC  

The situation in which a person or tool finds themselves drastically changes its value

2019-12-10 01:38:24 UTC  

truely is hard to define. i usually argue with egalitarians who say something like that as well. i dont think value truly exists but that comparissions can be made in certain aspects. some people produce more profit than others. some are taller than others, some can swim faster than others, ect ect.

it really is the egalitarian that has the issues of value

2019-12-10 01:38:56 UTC  

i of course disagree with that statement because value is subjective and undefined as well

2019-12-10 01:40:03 UTC  

Jumping high and swimming faster are well and good, but not in selecting for leadership or worth of a citizen by itself

2019-12-10 01:41:04 UTC  

If I remember my readings properly, profit is generated between mutually consenting parties with a net benefit for both

2019-12-10 01:41:31 UTC  

i would approach better by their ability to climb the ladder, i understand that is pretty machivellian of me, but still, it is something. it is one of the things why profit is such a good indicator for many things.

2019-12-10 01:42:18 UTC  

Applying this to a medieval monarch, what profit do they generate without delegating to the serfs?

2019-12-10 01:42:25 UTC  

profit is generated as a byproduct of captial (whether human or physical) being turned into a more efficient source and then sold between mutually consenting parties

2019-12-10 01:43:43 UTC  

the average american low wage worker does not know how to allocate its resources, so the business man better allocates it and takes the excess as profit

2019-12-10 01:44:15 UTC  

Not to sound like a communist, but that sounds exploitative

2019-12-10 01:44:19 UTC  

the medieval monarch, did the same, but by granting resources to those deserving of dukes and barons and nobels and all the way down the line

2019-12-10 01:44:34 UTC  

it is not exploitative because they were never going to do it anyway

2019-12-10 01:45:10 UTC  

if they could allocate the resources themselves they would and some people do, they then stop working as an assistant plumber and go start there own pumbing business and take the rest of their resources as profit

2019-12-10 01:46:31 UTC  

Sorry I gotta pull a Jordan Peterson, be back in 10-15

2019-12-10 01:46:55 UTC  

THINK ABOUT THE LAST THING I SAID ABOUT THE PLUMBERS WHILE YOUR GONE

2019-12-10 01:46:58 UTC  
2019-12-10 01:47:20 UTC  

I’m familiar with the plumbers

2019-12-10 01:56:45 UTC  

I’m not done, but I’ve got a question for you to ponder

2019-12-10 01:58:02 UTC  

What is the distinction between a leader who generates profit and one who generates production in practical terms?

2019-12-10 02:05:20 UTC  

Profit is better than production as a measurement of economic success because profit is only generated from an optimization of capital (whether labor or physical) to be sold to another individual who wants to purchase the thing in a mutual exchange. Production has no indicator of whether or not the process is optimizing resources, efficient in the market, or if there was a mutual exchange at the end of the process.

Profit is an indicator of optimization of capital and beneficial trade
Production is an indicator of number of things produced and does not indicate quality in the market

2019-12-10 02:38:46 UTC  

Ngl I’m pretty tired but I wanna talk later brue

2019-12-10 02:40:13 UTC  

save a screen shot

2019-12-10 02:40:15 UTC  

shoot me a dm

2019-12-10 02:40:34 UTC  

good talk! @MurderHobo goodnight

2019-12-10 03:32:44 UTC  

if you think Ukraine meddled in the 2016 election, you're a dumbass... the theory has been debunked several times, crowd strike is an American company owned by a an american born from a russian immigrant, the FBI didn't give them the "server" from Ukraine, because there was no server, they operated from the cloud... republicans are so stupid to stick with that...

2019-12-10 03:43:59 UTC  

Nobody gives a shit.