i mean it wasn't too late back before the transcript came out

I'm just waiting for the whole card house to collapse; the left, china influence in American business, open borders, electoral college removal, political correctness, media, etc

hows it going yanks? civil war yet to defend the honour of trump?

they had all the time in the world to shift course before and after that came out, their haste in pursuing this futile conviction is entirely on them.

The Senate will have fun with this before ultimately acquitting the trial. First article fails to provide direct evidence, second never got sent to courts.

The only thing I can think of that this impeachment would realistically accomplish is *maybe* generating some stigma around voting for an "impeached president" but even that's far too risky

Moderate dems that won the 2018 midterms in Red districts just signed their own resignation.

they can use it to gage public response to similar actions in the future

i guess

will we put up with abuse of power and legal systems like impeachment or not

I say yes though

not enough are angry enough for real change

The whole point was for Dems to generate negative partisanship towards Trump

this is like the sequel to the famous basket of deplorables comment

yeah that

like a big "hey working class America, fuck you"

hilariously they've only unified the republicans and alienated the independents

I am pretty sure when Clinton was impeached,the Democrats won the House back

Ironically, Trump’s now *leading* in battleground states where Biden had advantage.

It's gonna be a sea of red next year

but not as big or delicious as the sea of leftist tears

I'd just love to see a return of moderate control of the govt

And a little spring cleaning to existing laws to either update or trash them

That's all I ask

yeah man. lot to ask though, that would require a sane opposition party

Which is hard af to do because moderate ideas are boring

most of the big issues now aren't something that has a moderate possion, it's either one side or the other.

examples: abortion, gun rights, voter ID.

it's because one side is shoving the overton window as far as they possibly can in one direction

but at the same time where is the middle on any of those?

I think moderate is fine for the low level nitty gritty workings of government, but at this point it's like are we going full communist or not

so 🤷‍♂️

that is a bit fair, but that isn't what anyone is talking about.

there is also the issue about how do you find a middle ground between "wants to increase funding for a program" and "wants to decrease funding for a program"?

leaveing it as is doesn't make anyone happy.

agreed tbh

a moderate basically tries to achieve compromise

Use the nickle plan it was first brought up by Brown but others have since suggested it. **All** departments create 5% in cuts. No favoritism. It's not ideal but it removes bias.

I would be totaly ok with cutting everything over time like that.

but remember these are people who call "reduction in increase" a cut.

Because the problem is *everyone* has a program of department they like. So it can only be politically viable if everyone has to make the same cuts.