Message from @Mersenne

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2019-12-19 05:48:08 UTC  

So every war needs to be easy for the us to win.

2019-12-19 05:48:10 UTC  

How could you possibly not think that the government wastes money just as badly in defense spending as it does in healthcare spending? That makes no sense

2019-12-19 05:48:16 UTC  

That's a separate social program that's strictly off limits to every other government pool of money.

2019-12-19 05:48:36 UTC  

@Troye 11 aircraft carriers

2019-12-19 05:48:42 UTC  

Vs nothing productive

2019-12-19 05:49:03 UTC  

Thats just one example

2019-12-19 05:49:12 UTC  

merry impeachmas everyone! 🙂

2019-12-19 05:49:38 UTC  

Merry Impeachmas Toad. Thank you for the new holiday slogan 💯

2019-12-19 05:49:39 UTC  

@Mersenne I wasn't claiming they were being siphoned to the millitary specifically. Only that they are gone

2019-12-19 05:51:39 UTC  

@PurpleToad A holy day indeed

2019-12-19 05:52:00 UTC  

and merry Impeachmas

2019-12-19 05:52:08 UTC  

@Louis The key word here is *wastes*. I'm not claiming that there aren't areas where are military could be improved. I'm saying there is a massive fucking pit that all our money is getting sucked into from every branch of government. Wherever that money is going its getting wasted

2019-12-19 05:52:28 UTC  

Miltary does not waste as much money as you think

2019-12-19 05:52:53 UTC  

F35 for example was a legit program with one problem that made it a money sink

2019-12-19 05:53:09 UTC  

An audit would have wasted all that money and cancelled the f35

2019-12-19 05:53:20 UTC  

After being so close to done

2019-12-19 05:53:39 UTC  

The f35 all things considered was not that bad

2019-12-19 05:53:52 UTC  

But thats just the example people make

2019-12-19 05:54:25 UTC  

The problem was thinking that having one chassis for three different models would make it cheaper.

2019-12-19 05:54:28 UTC  

It didnt

2019-12-19 05:54:33 UTC  

To be honest, the F-35 was a considerable fucking waste of funding. I would advocate the F-22 as a versatile and reliable alternative to the F-35.

2019-12-19 05:54:39 UTC  

The F35 *is* not all that bad, but it *was* all that bad before they got their act together and stopped trying to 10-up SAAB

2019-12-19 05:54:44 UTC  

F-22 no

2019-12-19 05:54:52 UTC  

F-22 is a air superiority fighter

2019-12-19 05:54:59 UTC  

And super fucking expensive per unit

2019-12-19 05:55:07 UTC  

f35 in general purpose

2019-12-19 05:55:13 UTC  

As much as i like the f-22

2019-12-19 05:55:22 UTC  

It is not general purpose

2019-12-19 05:55:28 UTC  

And that's the problem. An air superiority aircraft should never be cheaper than a general purpose fighter jet.

2019-12-19 05:55:36 UTC  

It wasnt

2019-12-19 05:55:41 UTC  

per unit

2019-12-19 05:56:04 UTC  

I'm just reading the writing on the wall. The F-35 is arguably the premier funding fuck-up for 2018.

2019-12-19 05:56:20 UTC  

zumwalt tbh

2019-12-19 05:56:35 UTC  

zumwalt was the same thing as the f22

2019-12-19 05:56:40 UTC  

pretty much

2019-12-19 05:56:46 UTC  

No

2019-12-19 05:57:03 UTC  

except zumwalt production was canceled earlier

2019-12-19 05:57:06 UTC  

The f22 can shoot its guns and the USAF will still have money left over after a few volleys

2019-12-19 05:57:20 UTC  

F35 costs 85 million per unit

2019-12-19 05:57:27 UTC  

Christ that hurts to read

2019-12-19 05:57:32 UTC  

f22 costs 150 million per unit