Message from @Troye

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2019-12-19 05:41:51 UTC  

Point is - you can absolutely increase internal auditing to ensure a healthy budget is being promoted

2019-12-19 05:42:04 UTC  

Having an audit every year would mean less research into expiremental tech and less stuff altogether

2019-12-19 05:42:27 UTC  

We had shit like this is 1880

2019-12-19 05:42:34 UTC  

And we suffered for it

2019-12-19 05:42:55 UTC  

Mauser action? nope

2019-12-19 05:42:55 UTC  

Not so much - there's entire divisions dedicated to R&D. I would advocate for financing auditing agencies to reclaim lost funds. Could easily allocate that funding to more relevant projects, or scale back to other govt programs.

2019-12-19 05:42:57 UTC  

Single load

2019-12-19 05:43:06 UTC  

Cheaper because muh audit

2019-12-19 05:43:43 UTC  

This literally made the us less advanced than the rest of the world

2019-12-19 05:43:51 UTC  

When it was used

2019-12-19 05:44:03 UTC  

It's more like taking that 80K a Supply Battalion is dumping on last-minute bullshit to maintain their funding so it would be transferred to a forward deployed combat unit in need of equipment

2019-12-19 05:45:17 UTC  

I double checked and I couldn't find an accurate representation of our spending. However, I did see that on paper social security, medicare, etc. make up a chunk that odds are is bigger than deffence spending. One of the major problems is where all the money is actually going. Money is being siphoned out of social security to pay for everything else. Each of the major chunks of spending needs reform.

2019-12-19 05:46:50 UTC  

@Mersenne I agree the argument could be worded better. But its really simple. We're spending way too much. And that includes millitary. The fact stands that our millitary is larger than the next seven largest countries combined.

2019-12-19 05:47:27 UTC  

lol no\

2019-12-19 05:47:32 UTC  

More spending is required

2019-12-19 05:47:38 UTC  

You want to know why?

2019-12-19 05:47:51 UTC  

Because the americans have lost the will to fight hard wars

2019-12-19 05:48:01 UTC  

Not to be aggressive, but I would challenge you to provide a source stating that any military funds are being siphoned from social security

2019-12-19 05:48:08 UTC  

So every war needs to be easy for the us to win.

2019-12-19 05:48:10 UTC  

How could you possibly not think that the government wastes money just as badly in defense spending as it does in healthcare spending? That makes no sense

2019-12-19 05:48:16 UTC  

That's a separate social program that's strictly off limits to every other government pool of money.

2019-12-19 05:48:36 UTC  

@Troye 11 aircraft carriers

2019-12-19 05:48:42 UTC  

Vs nothing productive

2019-12-19 05:49:03 UTC  

Thats just one example

2019-12-19 05:49:12 UTC  

merry impeachmas everyone! 🙂

2019-12-19 05:49:38 UTC  

Merry Impeachmas Toad. Thank you for the new holiday slogan 💯

2019-12-19 05:49:39 UTC  

@Mersenne I wasn't claiming they were being siphoned to the millitary specifically. Only that they are gone

2019-12-19 05:51:39 UTC  

@PurpleToad A holy day indeed

2019-12-19 05:52:00 UTC  

and merry Impeachmas

2019-12-19 05:52:08 UTC  

@Louis The key word here is *wastes*. I'm not claiming that there aren't areas where are military could be improved. I'm saying there is a massive fucking pit that all our money is getting sucked into from every branch of government. Wherever that money is going its getting wasted

2019-12-19 05:52:28 UTC  

Miltary does not waste as much money as you think

2019-12-19 05:52:53 UTC  

F35 for example was a legit program with one problem that made it a money sink

2019-12-19 05:53:09 UTC  

An audit would have wasted all that money and cancelled the f35

2019-12-19 05:53:20 UTC  

After being so close to done

2019-12-19 05:53:39 UTC  

The f35 all things considered was not that bad

2019-12-19 05:53:52 UTC  

But thats just the example people make

2019-12-19 05:54:25 UTC  

The problem was thinking that having one chassis for three different models would make it cheaper.

2019-12-19 05:54:28 UTC  

It didnt

2019-12-19 05:54:33 UTC  

To be honest, the F-35 was a considerable fucking waste of funding. I would advocate the F-22 as a versatile and reliable alternative to the F-35.

2019-12-19 05:54:39 UTC  

The F35 *is* not all that bad, but it *was* all that bad before they got their act together and stopped trying to 10-up SAAB