as a person living in your country's "hat" i think anyone who has bothered to take a look around realizes that if the US collapses or retreats into an isolationist state, the world would immediately become a much more hostile place for a lot of us.
@Jym Its made up of some Progressives, some Libertarians, a few Marxists, some Conservatives and Third Positionists. I tend to not restrict who interact with, hence being here.
thats quite an achievement, ive gradually had less contact with my progressive friends because they're just so unrelentingly hostile to anyone who simply fails to agree with them
@Bringerof_D Hostile for "us" as in the US/Canada in particular? The only hostility comes from our actions. If our actions were not what they were there would be no reason to be hostile. If you mean the rest of the world in general if you truly think that (which I don't) its not our problem.
@system11 I get into debates with them about like nationalism, LGBT and racial stuff for example but they are mostly on the right side when it comes for caring about the people as a collective and wanting good workers rights.
> @Bringerof_D Hostile for "us" as in the US/Canada in particular? The only hostility comes from our actions. If our actions were not what they were there would be no reason to be hostile. If you mean the rest of the world in general if you truly think that (which I don't) its not our problem. @Ϻ14ᛟ You should read up on some history from outside of the western sphere. Pretty much everyone in direct contact with an islamic nation has been facing continuous invasion and terrorism since it's creation and from the arab world before that.
effectively thats the reason why all current cultures in close proximity to Islam have very strict doctrines against dealing with them. All the other ones don't exist anymore.
@Bringerof_D Are you referring to Africa? Its not that I've not read up on anything its that I'm more nuanced than anti-Jihad movement.
Do you know which other group everyone had conflict with when in direct contact? I'll give you a hint: They were kicked out of hundreds of countries because everywhere they went people found them to be very subversive. These are the people we're goaded into fighting Middle Eastern wars for lmao. If we were being actually invaded by Muslims at our borders then of course I'd support defending that, but going into the Middle East and fighting wars which are of no benefit to our people is disgusting. We should be letting these people have their own nations and do what they wish with them without interference, they're not even expanding borders or anything.
