Message from @everybodydothatdinosaur

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2020-01-12 06:58:31 UTC  

This isn't a violation of the 1st amendment, you aren't owed free money from the governmeant xD

2020-01-12 06:58:55 UTC  

Like who they choose to give money to is their own choice, these universities can still exist without governmeant grants

2020-01-12 07:00:13 UTC  

That the governmeant is not in favor of something or won't support something is different from not allowing them to exist

2020-01-12 07:00:17 UTC  

yes it is. universities receiving public funds from the gov are public institutions that are using taxes to operate. Therefore the government should not be allowed to revoke this funding based on things that violate amendments, effectively banning BDS demonstrations on campuses otherwise public funds will be rejected... is a violation of the first amendment because the 1st amendment specifically protects us from the government limiting speech

2020-01-12 07:00:59 UTC  

mainly because this has to do with tax money you see

2020-01-12 07:01:02 UTC  

The Governmeant isn't limiting the speech, it's just not providing tax revenue. For the same reason a police officer can be fired for saying antisemetic stuff or racist language, the same is true of choosing who to give money to

2020-01-12 07:01:05 UTC  

public funds from everyone

2020-01-12 07:01:08 UTC  

and its not like the government doesn't have a record of this shit in other areas

2020-01-12 07:01:22 UTC  

People who work for the governmeant can be fired for being racist and whatnot

2020-01-12 07:01:29 UTC  

The same applies to cutting funding to places

2020-01-12 07:01:37 UTC  

You don't have to give these people money

2020-01-12 07:01:55 UTC  

you are equivocating things that are not equal

2020-01-12 07:02:06 UTC  

non-sequiter

2020-01-12 07:02:11 UTC  

except people who directly work for the fed represent them by association

2020-01-12 07:02:22 UTC  

students don't fall under that responsibility

2020-01-12 07:02:33 UTC  

They are essentially equal, this represents the governmeant, any entity it provides funding to, and it shouldn't provide funding to them if they are bad, for the same reason we shouldn't give money to Iran, or any other antisemetic organization

2020-01-12 07:02:46 UTC  

And who the governmeant gives money to represents them by association

2020-01-12 07:03:00 UTC  

no they arent essentially equal

2020-01-12 07:03:00 UTC  

If we started funding random dictatorships that would be a bad thing and reflect poorly on the U.S. right

2020-01-12 07:03:08 UTC  

it makes sense not to give an antisemetic organization money

2020-01-12 07:03:11 UTC  

From the governmeant

2020-01-12 07:03:23 UTC  

or an organization that is outwardsly antisemetic etc.

2020-01-12 07:03:29 UTC  

nah you think you are making sense

2020-01-12 07:03:31 UTC  

but you arent

2020-01-12 07:03:34 UTC  

I am

2020-01-12 07:03:35 UTC  

and you are wrong

2020-01-12 07:03:37 UTC  

Nope

2020-01-12 07:03:41 UTC  

yep

2020-01-12 07:03:49 UTC  

The 1st amendment does not give you the right to free money from the governmeant

2020-01-12 07:04:04 UTC  

once again false equivalence

2020-01-12 07:04:10 UTC  

It just means you can say whatever you want to say without legal consequences, not that the governmeant might decide to stop giving you money

2020-01-12 07:04:24 UTC  

I mean they can basically stop funding universities for any reason they like and this is just one of the stated reasons

2020-01-12 07:04:38 UTC  

For all it matters they could cut all funding to all universities

2020-01-12 07:04:43 UTC  

Well first we just disagree that BDS is anti-semitic, and B, the openness of that definition, coupled with the clear motivation of the government to directly intervene on this or any other political speech, is what we're concerned about

2020-01-12 07:05:01 UTC  

every's argument is basically "well dont be antisemitic then"

2020-01-12 07:05:02 UTC  

They're not intervening on their political speech, they can say whatever they want

2020-01-12 07:05:04 UTC  

lol ok retard

2020-01-12 07:05:18 UTC  

An organization is not owed benefits from the governmeant

2020-01-12 07:05:27 UTC  

Outside of life-threatining services

2020-01-12 07:05:35 UTC  

So like, no, they don't have to give them free money

2020-01-12 07:05:36 UTC  

what do you not understand about universities specifically being public institutions