There is an obvious reason, The Black Community has been pushed away from Traditional values by bad influences. Rap music constantly talking about ‘Fucking Bitches then kicking them outside’ as well as living a living a life Trafficking Drugs and Shooting people over it. The Father is overwhelmingly absent from the home and we all know how things turn out for kids with Single Mothers.

There are no role models and so the role models chosen are Rappers, Professional Sports Players, and other influential figures who may not live a realistic life

The Patriarchy strikes again

https://pluralist.com/rachel-henry-killed-3-children//49999

@Omar_The_OMAP they are a product of their own culture, it's genetic for them. Extremely violent, unable to adapt to a society with a functioning rule of law, and very poor impulse control. These are things outside of their own control, it would be better to have them back in Africa where they can see their true selves in a welcoming environment for such Behavior

Bad b8

You can't take a strain of people who were building cathedrals in the 11th century and make them with people who still, to this day can't figure out how to farm correctly

There are no successful black countries, cities or municipalities. They don't exist.

Even the successful high-earning black neighborhoods in Atlanta are Rife with crime, their children just can't help themselves

I dissagree that it is genetic, though genetics MAY have some play in how they act they are just as human as anyone else and they do have the choice to not adopt that culture.

I do agree that the culture is to blame though.

interesting response @Jym i think its important to mention those other factors that you mentioned in your response when discussing this kind of thing.

But to me this still didnt disprove that genetics have no effect on the issue. Race realist dont believe that genetics are the sole factor. They believe that it is one of many factors and possibly an important one that should be considered.

Charles Murray wrote a book called the bell curve and if i remember correctly he posited that it is about .6

The question should be examined by other species, are birds of different colors smarter than others?

well it is possible that some birds are scavenging then others

while some are birds of prey

Within the same species though.

some birds are better at different tasks just by the shape of their beaks right?

Finches are notorious for that yes

But we would want to compare within the same adaptation outside of plumage color

honestly I am not familiar enough with the science to say one way or the other for certain. but i do think its something that should be explored in good faith

I think race/color always is a factor, it's just to me not the deciding factor.

I haven't seen evidence to make me go, yeah its their race making them choose to run from the cops.

hmm well anybody who just sees a black person and assumes they are stupid is not a race realist... at least from my point of view. because a race realist would understand that averages dont necessarily indicate what the individual you are speaking to will be like

and wizard apparently there is some literature on impulse control that is interesting, but I havent seen it personally.

there are always exceptions to averages, and in fact quite a lot of them

Well I think averages today are misleading due to immigration of the more intelligent and capable individuals to more prosperous nations.

It's very complex

thats an interesting point

yes its quite a lot of moving parts

But if there's good evidence I would definitely consider the arguments and would want there to be more research and discussion academically.

i think whats unfortunate is that Charles Murray writes a book in which he says its 60% genetics and 40% environment. and he gets blacklisted as like... a neo-nazi and shiz...

with this kind of environment its impossible to look into things in good faith without worrying about something screwing with the study

Is Purple Toad a commie?

yes

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I don't see the harm if it's going to be used to help people overcome obstacles. I think people get too afraid of "racism" they forget that we don't understand everything about our own biology just yet.

Well I mean you could actually read *Bell Curve* @UnScottable Seeing as I have, twice, I can go over the highlight reel for you. First Murray and HErenstein did not use *any* IQ tests in that study. The primary source was the NLS which does not include IQ data they were working entirely off of proxy data.

Second the highest correlation between black SES was **not** in that proxy data. There was a 0.8 correlation with score on the MCVI (middle class values index) TL;DR black families that adopted mainstream American cultural values made more money.


Third the infamous Chapter 13 was not even the thesis of the book. It was written specifically to avoid the likely outcome that their overall thesis (that there was a coming cultural divide between normal Americans and an educated elite **Thirty fucking years ago why the fuck did everyone have to sperg on one fucking chapter FML**)

.8 correlation with genetics or?

sorry im a laman

and i didnt read the book which is why i posited what i was saying with questions... so you know..

relax. lol