Message from @psyxypher

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2020-01-26 00:46:48 UTC  

i would look into Yang's proposed ways to pay for a UBI, like a VAT tax, and transaction tax.

2020-01-26 00:46:49 UTC  

I currently work for minimum wage, but I still want the minimum wage to be lower.

2020-01-26 00:47:08 UTC  

I lose A LOT of sleep over the fear I'll be laid off for a high minimum wage.

2020-01-26 00:47:10 UTC  

UBI is just impractical. The better way of dealing with automation is just to mandate the workers work less hours for the same pay

2020-01-26 00:47:11 UTC  

The Minimum wage doesn't really help that much

2020-01-26 00:47:24 UTC  

It just creates problems.

2020-01-26 00:47:31 UTC  

There’s too many people for UBI

2020-01-26 00:47:33 UTC  

UBI is helpful because it erases many financial concerns for people

2020-01-26 00:47:41 UTC  

A UBI for all americans becuase some people might lose their jobs due to automation is just impracticla

2020-01-26 00:47:57 UTC  

That would be great if it was possible, but there isn't that you can just apparate from thin air to make a UBI

2020-01-26 00:47:57 UTC  

It stops unemployment from preventing people from receiving the bare necessities

2020-01-26 00:48:00 UTC  

that is the main problem

2020-01-26 00:48:03 UTC  

Just abolish the minimum wage.
Boom. Automation isn't a problem.

2020-01-26 00:48:11 UTC  

You can't get the money to pay for it

2020-01-26 00:48:24 UTC  

We shouldn't try to stop automation though @psyxypher

2020-01-26 00:48:32 UTC  

I mean I think a minimum wage is a good idea so it gives people a certain baseline

2020-01-26 00:48:36 UTC  

the minimum wage hurts the economy anyways

2020-01-26 00:48:39 UTC  

We should encourage it and try to help the people it takes out of work @psyxypher

2020-01-26 00:48:55 UTC  

We're not trying to stop automation. We're just not subsidizing it by making hiring people impractical.

2020-01-26 00:49:14 UTC  

putting an arbitrary limit on what people can get paid is just not a good idea. it causes all kinds of issues in the long run

2020-01-26 00:49:18 UTC  

That's the issue with the minimum wage; it's a violation of our right to work for less than minimum wage.

2020-01-26 00:49:26 UTC  

because many of these things are interconnected when it comes to the economic structure

2020-01-26 00:49:29 UTC  

We should be aiming to reach a point where most of the
is automated and not many people need to work

2020-01-26 00:49:40 UTC  

I can't imagine that going well.

2020-01-26 00:49:55 UTC  

UBI would prevent mass unemployment from being a problem

2020-01-26 00:49:58 UTC  

so... Wall-E

2020-01-26 00:50:03 UTC  

To an extent

2020-01-26 00:50:06 UTC  

TEL wants WALL-E IRL

2020-01-26 00:50:13 UTC  

I want to reach Utopia

2020-01-26 00:50:17 UTC  

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2020-01-26 00:50:28 UTC  

It's possible and it is what we should be aiming for

2020-01-26 00:50:31 UTC  

I was more thinking of something involving bringing back old style gladiator games because there's so many bored people.

2020-01-26 00:50:48 UTC  

@The Electric Lizard Utopia is just dystopia.

2020-01-26 00:50:50 UTC  

when i was first researching a UBI, i found this study insightful. https://rooseveltinstitute.org/modeling-macroeconomic-effects-ubi/

2020-01-26 00:50:56 UTC  
2020-01-26 00:51:08 UTC  

But those are contradictory terms

2020-01-26 00:51:25 UTC  

Hold up for a second.

2020-01-26 00:51:26 UTC  

Utopia isn't completely possible but we can take efforts to get closer to it

2020-01-26 00:51:35 UTC  

Would you mind if I got a video for reference?

2020-01-26 00:51:40 UTC  

Ensuring very few people have to work would be a stop towars it

2020-01-26 00:51:49 UTC  

@psyxypher Not reallu