Message from @Jokerfaic
Discord ID: 671868114161369097
"Hate" is never given a justification, so they see the reaction to evil as a sin.
Instead of, you know, the evil itself.
I agree its a fruitless endeavor, but simply endeavoring at all isn't automatically a certain negative
its a waste of their time, but not much more unless they take it too far
Pushing a wood splinter further into your skin is not going to get rid of the splinter. You have to pull it out to remove it. There is a right and wrong way to go about dealing with an aggravating problem.
I refuse to believe you don't see how silly that comparison is
Pushing it further in may cause it to become submerged, and not drag or catch anymore, but the risk of infection is too high.
by acknowledging that "hate" as an individual concept can't be quantified or coherently adressed, you've already annulled this binary example
again, a silly comparison
Wanting to kill people is not natural default state.
No, it isn't, which was one of my points as well
If you're going to accuse someone of homicidal tendencies towards a certain group, you have to ask why.
And I already said homophobia varies by degrees. what I also said was I can't really think of any significant anti-gay sentiment that doesn't directly imply negative intent
besides not wanting to marry a homosexual
Hate is a Relative term
by that of course I mean, an individual not wanting to marry another individual
yes it is
For instance, Christians can refer to Satanists as Hateful
more often you hear it about atheists
Now, I find them Antagonistic retards, but they aren’t really hateful
Stating that two homosexual men cannot reproduce is not hateful
nope
its not anti-gay either
But given the relativity, there is someone who finds that Statement Hateful
Usually it stems from saying “I’m Christian and I don’t agree with Same-Sex Marriage”
It’s not that I want to kill them or for them to be dead, I personally find it repulsive, but their private life is none of my business
well stating biological fact and saying "I'm repulsed that these two would marry" aren't exactly synonymous
and conjoining them in context would imply mentioning the inability to reproduce as a weak excuse to support the negative attitude
however the sentiment of "its none of my business" puts the matter to rest
It’s not the Marriage itself, it’s the Activities
I guess the better way of saying it is I find Homosexual Sex Repulsive and Unnatural
That includes PeePee in the Pooper
Regardless of Orientation
The thing is tho that is isn’t unnatural, we have seen homosexual action in many animals
yea animals tend to hump anything and everything
To be specific we've seen *bisexual* behavior in many species. The sort of exclusive homosexual pair bonding in our species is fairly unique. Male-male sex acts in other primates are usually dominance displays sort of like prison sex. Even avians that form 'lesbian' pair bonds *raise young* which is not possible without some hetro behaviors.
Not that that validates or invalidates anything they call it 'the naturalistic fallacy' for a reason.
mm, a similar thing happens today some gay/lesbian couples (+ the exception of sheep I believe for being bi since they form long term same sec relations). But my point was if you were using nature as an example of why homosexual/bi behaviour doesn’t happen ur just wrong basically which is what calling something unnatural basically is
At least your not calling for them to be executed like edgetards online or Nick Fuentes but I don't get offended by that. Christians can be against same-sex marrage but they aren't on the same level as a /pol/tard or a muslim cleric who want them actively dead.
Nick Fuentes isnt gay?