Message from @Death in June
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the incentives associated with it
a less "meritorious" can be superior to a more meritorious one if the incentives associated with it are better
"better" ha
Good luck with figuring out what's "better"
well i mean sure that can be difficult
but unless you're just apathetic to what hierarchies there are and/or how you would like them to be you have some conception of what is better
so like if i were to compare a system wherein the highest authority is embodied by a hereditary monarch as opposed to capital and by extension those who hold the most of it
the latter might be more meritorious
in the sense that the people who comprise it are probably going to be on average better capitalists than the monarch would be a statesman
however the incentives associated with the former are arguably better
I mean if you place meritocracy as the highest value... I really don't
because in that situation the monarch is incentivized to care about the health of the sovereign as a whole and in the long term as well
In theory perhaps.
though i would add a caveat that in an absolute monarchy at least the incentives can become perverse if the monarch is too incompetent
But there is a reason why Monarchies fell.
but i mean of course we aren't subject to absolute rule by capital either
so a more fitting comparison would be a monarchy similar to say morocco
i think it's because they were dealt two major blows
Undoubtedly so, however the monarchy system's fatal flaw is the idea that everyone in the line of descendants upholds the health of the sovereignty as a whole. It has no ability to correct for incompetence in the event of a terrible leader by awarding authority based solely upon heredity.
one, from the ascent of capitalism, the bourgeoisie, and liberalism
and then from WW1
sure i agree with that
to an extent at least
Yes. Nepotism would be the fall to a system that devalues meritocracy.
an elective monarchy might be preferable
but the thing is is that nepotism is restricted
because it's not in the interests of the monarch to allow for the health of the institutions that support the sovereign to be compromised by such things
and often they have a fair degree of authority to stamp out such things
i mean of course they might be nepotistic toward their family
but there would be many more situations in which nepotism would be more viable under a more diffuse system of power
A system of elective monarchy with restrictions on nepotism, which also upholds the interests of the sovereign, is essentially the idea behind a Democratic Republic.
if you really stretch the concept of what a monarch is sure
True, but the very idea of an "elective monarchy" is a stretch in itself
At that point you're just arguing over term limits
but the problem is that like an american president is only concerned about the effects their policies will have at most 4 years into the future
and of course the system is also entropic
the more the president matters the less coherent the system is in the long term as well
since it produces constant changes in leadership
I wouldn't be opposed to scrapping term limits if the people had the right to hold an emergency vote of removal once for every 4 years.
It still affords the swiftest means for correction. 8 Years is the most a president can serve in their position, with a considerable election every 4 years in which the public if afforded the ability to elect a replacement if necessary.
But I'll agree, the constant changes in leadership by two parties with opposing viewpoints can be terrible for long-term policies.