Message from @Jerm70
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When you're free, then you're also free to own stuff
they have a monopoly on the goods in their store
They have the freedom to fight back.
You can claim ownership because you're free, if you couldn't claim ownership of anything that would make you less free.
so it makes you less free to not be able to have an authority back up your exclusive claim to a particular object
Of course they would have a monopoly on the good in their store, they own it
You're trolling me DiJ, I'm done
i'm not trolling
Yes you are
Not on purpose perhaps, but you are trolling
You can't live in a truly free world and claim ownership because you are taking away people's right to that item.
no
you are relying on unexamined assumptions
No, I'm not
and i'm prodding at them
I've answered your question already, you're just repeating yourself
Russian trolls have entered chat
They are focusing on a post modern viewpoint of deconstruction.
if you say i can't use something how is that not infringing on my freedom
You're so obviously trolling
i'm not
Yes it is a troll
Its a tactic.
It's not a tactic, he's playing dumb
I've answered his question
you haven't
Yes I have
hes just trying to establish freedom has necessary limits
You're playing the kid's game
i'm criticizing the idea that your conception of freedom is just being free to do things without punishment
I like games
because you think the restrictions imposed on people through property ownership are conducive to freedom
there is obviously something deeper here
kid - "why?"
mom - "Because xyz"
kid - "why?"
mom - "Because xyz"
kid - "why?"
mom - "Because xyz"
kid - "why?"
mom - "Because xyz"
kid - "why?"
I would say that freedom being the tolerance of individual action would be a fair better starting point.
I raised four kids, no problem
In politics it is established that humans are the actors of the game
The kid is at least curious
Therefore the limit of freedom is before the individual
i'm not just asking why though