Message from @Jerm70

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2020-02-06 15:07:40 UTC  

When you're free, then you're also free to own stuff

2020-02-06 15:07:42 UTC  

they have a monopoly on the goods in their store

2020-02-06 15:07:45 UTC  

They have the freedom to fight back.

2020-02-06 15:07:59 UTC  

You can claim ownership because you're free, if you couldn't claim ownership of anything that would make you less free.

2020-02-06 15:08:27 UTC  

so it makes you less free to not be able to have an authority back up your exclusive claim to a particular object

2020-02-06 15:08:28 UTC  

Of course they would have a monopoly on the good in their store, they own it

2020-02-06 15:08:39 UTC  

You're trolling me DiJ, I'm done

2020-02-06 15:08:43 UTC  

i'm not trolling

2020-02-06 15:08:46 UTC  

Yes you are

2020-02-06 15:08:52 UTC  

Not on purpose perhaps, but you are trolling

2020-02-06 15:08:52 UTC  

You can't live in a truly free world and claim ownership because you are taking away people's right to that item.

2020-02-06 15:08:53 UTC  

no

2020-02-06 15:09:01 UTC  

you are relying on unexamined assumptions

2020-02-06 15:09:04 UTC  

No, I'm not

2020-02-06 15:09:04 UTC  

and i'm prodding at them

2020-02-06 15:09:14 UTC  

I've answered your question already, you're just repeating yourself

2020-02-06 15:09:15 UTC  

Russian trolls have entered chat

2020-02-06 15:09:33 UTC  

They are focusing on a post modern viewpoint of deconstruction.

2020-02-06 15:09:40 UTC  

if you say i can't use something how is that not infringing on my freedom

2020-02-06 15:09:59 UTC  

You're so obviously trolling

2020-02-06 15:10:06 UTC  

Its not a troll.

2020-02-06 15:10:08 UTC  

i'm not

2020-02-06 15:10:10 UTC  

Yes it is a troll

2020-02-06 15:10:12 UTC  

Its a tactic.

2020-02-06 15:10:19 UTC  

It's not a tactic, he's playing dumb

2020-02-06 15:10:22 UTC  

I've answered his question

2020-02-06 15:10:27 UTC  

you haven't

2020-02-06 15:10:30 UTC  

Yes I have

2020-02-06 15:10:36 UTC  

hes just trying to establish freedom has necessary limits

2020-02-06 15:10:52 UTC  

You're playing the kid's game

2020-02-06 15:10:53 UTC  

i'm criticizing the idea that your conception of freedom is just being free to do things without punishment

2020-02-06 15:10:58 UTC  

I like games

2020-02-06 15:11:07 UTC  

because you think the restrictions imposed on people through property ownership are conducive to freedom

2020-02-06 15:11:11 UTC  

there is obviously something deeper here

2020-02-06 15:11:24 UTC  

kid - "why?"
mom - "Because xyz"
kid - "why?"
mom - "Because xyz"
kid - "why?"
mom - "Because xyz"
kid - "why?"
mom - "Because xyz"
kid - "why?"

2020-02-06 15:11:45 UTC  

I would say that freedom being the tolerance of individual action would be a fair better starting point.

2020-02-06 15:11:47 UTC  

I raised four kids, no problem

2020-02-06 15:12:19 UTC  

In politics it is established that humans are the actors of the game

2020-02-06 15:12:22 UTC  

The kid is at least curious

2020-02-06 15:12:35 UTC  

Therefore the limit of freedom is before the individual

2020-02-06 15:12:37 UTC  

i'm not just asking why though