Message from @Frost509

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2020-02-11 20:45:21 UTC  

i did like that hes supposedly putting out a bill that is making price transparency mandatory or somthing

2020-02-11 20:45:40 UTC  

reading a book called the price we pay and its pissing me off

2020-02-11 20:46:09 UTC  

without context that sounds like you're reading propaganda

2020-02-11 20:47:03 UTC  

It's a direct quote, not sure how that's propaganda

2020-02-11 20:47:47 UTC  

man gotta figure out how the internet works i suck at this

2020-02-11 20:48:56 UTC  

no I mean the phrase "I'm reading a book and its pissing me off"

2020-02-11 20:49:50 UTC  

its a book written by a doctor who went around and documented multiple cases of hospitals price gouging and predatorily suing low income patients

2020-02-11 20:50:26 UTC  

havent gotten far enough to reach a conclusion yet but so far the book is making me angrier with every story

2020-02-11 20:51:35 UTC  

how does a hospital sue a patient for anything but damage to persons or property?

2020-02-11 20:52:31 UTC  

they sue the patient for purposefully bloated medical costs that no one making less than 6 figures could hope to pay on time

2020-02-11 20:53:08 UTC  

So they sue the patients that can't pay their hospital bills?

2020-02-11 20:53:13 UTC  

and half the time the hospital would get the suit passed and garnish wages without the person being aware until its too late

2020-02-11 20:53:49 UTC  

@PurpleToad yeah, and the prices are arbitrarily raised and bloated with little to no transparency

2020-02-11 20:54:13 UTC  

fucking hell florida chill

2020-02-11 20:54:27 UTC  

Not surprising, its Florida

2020-02-11 21:03:12 UTC  

Civil disobedience is an American right

2020-02-11 21:03:30 UTC  

Aswell as the right to protest, idc what you believe in

2020-02-11 21:03:48 UTC  

so is this another standing rock situation?

2020-02-11 21:06:43 UTC  

Eehhh similar

2020-02-11 21:07:16 UTC  

Not completely familiar about all that happened with standing rock

2020-02-11 21:07:21 UTC  

Tbh

2020-02-11 21:07:58 UTC  

not surprising, there was a huge media blackout on it pretty early on

2020-02-11 21:08:34 UTC  

native americans were protesting against a pipeline and were pretty much assaulted to remove them.

2020-02-11 21:10:42 UTC  

wow, what is wrong with people, and I can't belive that i'm being forced to be on the same side as people who are protesting a pipeline.

2020-02-11 21:11:22 UTC  

all you gotta do is charge them with tresspassing if they are in the way of your building.

2020-02-11 21:27:12 UTC  

>The Federal Government is Assaulting the Injuns again

2020-02-11 21:27:25 UTC  

History repeats itself

2020-02-11 21:34:37 UTC  
2020-02-11 21:35:28 UTC  

so is he gonna be charged with a hate crime?

2020-02-11 21:37:30 UTC  

Well speech is a protected right. Civil disobedience can easily be a crime and often includes trespassing and vandalism. In this case trespassing on energy facilities. Trespassing by Greens who, by the way, like to practice industrial sabotage.

And, not to put to fine a point on it we require a lot of safety training and certification before we let people work with things like million gallon tanks of volatile petrochemicals. And do not allow unqualified individuals to go around turning valves. This is from a general aversion to *huge fucking explosions*.

2020-02-11 21:38:27 UTC  

oh if we are talking about them getting near stuff like that then sure, they need to be kept well away form that.

2020-02-11 21:39:55 UTC  

so i could assume that what the headline is calling "Civil Disobedience" is something closer to "destruction of property" or outright terrorism?

2020-02-11 21:46:51 UTC  

Yeah I just looked up the facilities covered. I actually worked in petrochem for a few years. Some of these are now under DHS regulations because they are the sort of thing terrorists wank to blowing up.

2020-02-11 22:03:02 UTC  

well as long as we are infact talking about actively entering into an area like that and not just standing out front with a sign.

2020-02-11 22:07:53 UTC  

but yah i do agree that while protests are a protected activity blocking roads and causeing damage is not protected.

2020-02-11 22:36:18 UTC  

And, reading the Bill rather than Common Dreams, The Intercept, or Pravda it is a misdemeanor charge.

2020-02-11 22:36:59 UTC  

One should always pay more than their fair share of attention to the government's definition of protest in contrast to their definition of criminal action

2020-02-11 22:38:11 UTC  

If that's true, a misdemeanor charge for demonstration is shockingly reasonable