theyre trying to teach collectivism in the elementary math classes in my state so i think its a thing

you are going to have varying degrees of loyalty to any chosen "collective"

lumping it all up and calling it collective is what a sub human negro would do

Plus society doesn’t have to either be “individualism” or “collectivism” it can have parts that are one way or another. The military, police and intelligence agencies are collectivistic while other parts of society are not this way.

Well I have no loyalty to any collective. I have loyalty to a small number of individuals.

Mainly my family and friends.

so

A society isn’t a monolith

a collective

Nope.

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yes

Nope.

its an arbitrary group of people

a collective

You're arbitrary.

youre only saying otherwise because youre buying into the sargoy meme of "muh collectivism bad"

Wrong.

while the concept of collectivism itself is retarded

Present an actual reasoning for your claims.

1 done by people acting as a group.
"a collective protest"
belonging or relating to all the members of a group.
"ministers who share collective responsibility" · "a collective sigh of relief from parents"
synonyms:
common · shared · joint · combined · mutual · communal · united · allied · cooperative · collaborative · aggregate · cumulative · undivided · pooled
antonyms:
individual · sectional
taken as a whole; aggregate.
"the collective power of the workforce"
NOUN
collectives (plural noun)
2 a cooperative enterprise.
"the anarchist collective and bookshop"
synonyms:
cooperative · co-op · community · communal settlement · kibbutz · fellowship
a collective farm.

there isnt some vague "the collective"

You should look up the starvation rate in the Great Dustbowl.

Spoiler alert: there wasn't one.

if you arent identifiying what the supposed collective is then youre being retarded by asserting anyone is collectivist

and by that same margin youre retarded by asserting anyome is individualist without better explaining what their are individualizing *from*

Well and if you're illiterate on political philosophy while using the terminology of political ideology then I can only feel sorry for you

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/01/31/Breadline_wide-9fc3c3fd2059cb0337e386384c7118512e932ede-s800-c85.jpg

do the bread lines not look like a famine?

You know why civilized countries don't worry about the conquest of bread? It's because we're too busy conquering the 2 car garage.

Well if me picking hard socialism so my nation at least survives might be “collectivistic” but whatever. It’s that or they die out and are replaced @ETBrooD

@Jym i thought you said great depression for a second lol i was like im pretty sure plenty of people starved lol

I think that question has more dimensions than a collectivism vs individualism debate

i mean considering how much of the country was still sustenance farming at the time

with the dust bowl causing a very poor harvest season for several years

they did suffer quite a bit

> Well if me picking hard socialism so my nation at least survives might be “collectivistic” but whatever. It’s that or they die out and are replaced
But therein lies the problem - socialism will cause at least as much harm to your fellow whites as the current state of affairs will. Out of the frying pan into the fire.

both financially and starvation wise

Hard Socialism is already about to happen anyway.

Well, it might. That's why we need to stop it.

i doubt that snake

but either way