@ETBrooDthats why we were saying that the church is a poor representation of Christianity

You clearly have not read the book, or you've read it while being guided what to make of it

@randomNPCno3 Ah yes, "not a true scotsman"

The very idea of it is destructive towards individualism.

I like that fallacy

It applies literally anytime anywhere to anything

It's also the best fallacy because **IF IT AINT SCOTTISH ITS CRAP**

"Well this type of religiosity wasn't good, so it wasn't really our religiosity"

people miss the important pieces and what they relate to.
https://www.biblestudytools.com/ncv/proverbs/passage/?q=proverbs+8:22-31
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(wisdom)

@ETBrooD Most people don't actually understand the faith because they don't read the book.

Ah, cross-theism. Relating other gods between religions.

An apologist favorite.

S'why Islam continues to maintain power over the west.

If you say so, satan

Satan was a good dude. Was literally just a fallen angel struck down because he wanted to help humanity.

Did less bad than Yaweh.

*Satan did nothing wrong*

Satan literally means adversary or an obstacle that stands in your path.

As defined by Yaweh

Oh yes, and we all know, the adversary is automatically evil.

As defined by hebrew etymology

Love how you point out control from human origin, but won't recognize control of a godly origin

There's the protagonist, and the antagonist, and if you're the protagonist, you know you're good, and if you're the antagonist, you know you're evil. Simple.

The Demiurge isn't god anyways

What more magical power to control your thought than the ultimate power?

Be a mechanicus. Serve the omnissiah. Only the manmade machine is worthy of manmade worship.

catholic church supported the development of individualism

through its family policies

they sought to undermine the authority of kinship groups by promoting outbreeding

and the nuclear family

I worship the unknowable God. Yaldabaoth is the child of the void.

Until we discovered inbreeding and nepotism in their most powerful sources, but humans are fallible...

what do you mean in their most powerful sources

are you referring to like

monarchs

inbreeding

Kings and queens of early second millennium nations.

well sure but those people form a very very very tiny portion of the population

Serving the Roman and Venitian catholic church.

so in terms of cultural and genetic impact of the policies on the population as a whole they promoted individualism

They maintained their power through distributing it within their own bloodlines