Message from @Crafty

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2020-01-03 10:52:21 UTC  

Well Linux Tech Tips is just a shill at this point

2020-01-03 10:52:27 UTC  

Not heard of the other two

2020-01-03 10:52:42 UTC  

If i go on holiday i cone back i owe my gas 18 quid for nothin

2020-01-03 10:52:50 UTC  

That'll be the standing charge

2020-01-03 10:52:53 UTC  

We all pay that

2020-01-03 10:53:01 UTC  

Certain amount per day + a certain amount per unit

2020-01-03 10:53:09 UTC  

Its rediculous though innit

2020-01-03 10:53:12 UTC  

Well

2020-01-03 10:53:14 UTC  

No, not really

2020-01-03 10:53:17 UTC  

was youtube better before everyone started shilling sponsored products?

2020-01-03 10:53:24 UTC  

Nah

2020-01-03 10:53:27 UTC  

Because energy suppliers have to also maintain the network, and your connection

2020-01-03 10:53:31 UTC  

It's always been shilling

2020-01-03 10:53:57 UTC  

Fuck em its there running costs they should factor it into the electric cost

2020-01-03 10:54:14 UTC  

in the case of a lot of tech channels it was long before the current setup because they were still getting products to review based on big companies sending them shit (effectively sponsoring their channel)

2020-01-03 10:54:49 UTC  

If we nationalised the energy industry (even if we still allowed/promoted private companies being the generators) - and I don't have an ideological objection to it - this is the only time where charging people a daily standing charge would be inappropriate

2020-01-03 10:55:06 UTC  

That's why you don't watch reviews without understanding there is bias there due to them having been sent the product

2020-01-03 10:55:21 UTC  

yeah

2020-01-03 10:56:16 UTC  

Interesting.

2020-01-03 10:56:35 UTC  

Well i havent really thought about it until now

2020-01-03 10:57:11 UTC  

I reckon much of their success is contingent on many people not realising this

2020-01-03 10:58:01 UTC  

you will see people recommending bad products

2020-01-03 10:58:47 UTC  

just dont use YT as your sole source of tech insight

2020-01-03 10:58:56 UTC  

It's something Thunderf00t points out in his sphere

2020-01-03 10:59:20 UTC  

It's one thing to have adverts/sponsors, another when you're within that sphere yourself

2020-01-03 10:59:28 UTC  

he has some good points but i find him insufferable to listen to

2020-01-03 10:59:49 UTC  

By illustration, I don't think peopel watch Dankula and assume Raid Shadow Legends is a great game, and they don't watch Bearing thinking whateverthefuck VPN he's shilling is the best VPN

2020-01-03 11:00:37 UTC  

Thunderf00t? He has his own set of character flaws that makes him like that, and a massive blind spot when it comes to politics

2020-01-03 11:00:44 UTC  

maybe in large part, but they are surely directing traffic to these products or they wouldn't be doing it. that means a lot of people are gullible enough to go download that predatory mobile game (probably kids, much of the time)

2020-01-03 11:00:45 UTC  

Heady mix a-la PeP

2020-01-03 11:00:56 UTC  

Yes

2020-01-03 11:01:15 UTC  

But Bearing isn't an expert on VPNs, you might argue Linus Tech Tips is

2020-01-03 11:01:56 UTC  

It'd be like complaining to the Cinema company that the Volkswagon you bought after seeing an advert for it in the movie trailers wasn't as good as they made out

2020-01-03 11:02:20 UTC  

@Crafty even total biscuit was man enough to admit that being sent product will in tern lead to bias, he even made sure to make this fact open to his viewers and that his viewers should always watch his and many other channels

2020-01-03 11:02:29 UTC  

yeah it kinda became a joke once channels not even tangentially related to the product they're promoting started doing it

2020-01-03 11:02:58 UTC  

Not a joke, if anything easier - it's just advertising at that point and you can disconnect the product from the person's channel promoting it

2020-01-03 11:03:19 UTC  

Its a business at the end of the day. Its all about the benjamins. I would shill a vpn or a crappy game for huge stacks of cash. Most people would

2020-01-03 11:03:23 UTC  

yeah i suppose

2020-01-03 11:03:33 UTC  

I don't think reviewers should be allowed to keep the product once they've done the review, in essence they're not being sent a free gift, but are only providing a service

2020-01-03 11:04:13 UTC  

With all the issues of total biscuit with his politics and stupid behaviour at coxcon, he was consumer first through and through

2020-01-03 11:04:29 UTC  

As long as they make it clear they're being sponsored their shouldn't be an issue