Iran should leave everyone else alone

We are spending billions and losing soldiers lives and we are gaining nothing for it

this whole thing started because they were trying to sneak oil to Syria

If Western Intervention was so successful all the time Libya would be a democratic paradise by now

Then they started seizing tankers near Hormuz

nation building is retarded

We shouldn't have been in Syria either

im not saying nation build iran

syria was more of a moral thing but it turned into a total clusterfuck where the only choice was what kind of shit you wanted to eat

The US intervening in Syria was stupid

They essentially ended up funding terrorism against themselves

honestly i think syria was just a way to make sure Russia didn't get a stronger hold in the midle east, which is of course the genesis of all this shit in the first place

They still did though

Iran = Russia, Iraq = US

Assad is still in power

yeah

Assad is an ally to Russia

it's dumb

i dont give a fuck how much power russia has in the middle east

I honestly think Russia should have Crimea too. They are the ones who built it up.

Svestopol had been a Russian city for like 300 years

Well partially

Then the soviet union collapses and they lose their only warm water port

It had been controlled by Ukraine which had tended to have some autonomy

yeah, under a Czar

In the USSR it was treated as a Semi- Autonomous Socialist Republic

Old Ukranians consider themselves Russian. Only the young see themselves as Ukranian.

well thats what I have heard from Ukranians anyway

I talked to a girl who told me her grandmother considered herself Russian, but she hates Russia.

which makes sense honestly

either way, my proposal is, stop giving a fuck about Russia, they have a right to project power in the area since it's right on their border.

it would be like Russia trying to stop the US influencing Central America.

Which I guess they kinda did in Cuba, also a stupid thing.

I think Russia would chill out if NATO stopped antagonizing them.

Imagine you're Russia. Your Empire just collapsed and the western parts got soaked into ANOTHER FUCKING EUROPEAN EMPIRE. Knowing the last 3 times this happened you had to spend your sons like bullets to repel invasions.

and that doesn't even count the Crimean War.

I think it's only prudent to be a bit on edge if you're Russia.

Watching a guy on YouTube open a British mre from 1899 and he's eating it...

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120yr old dried beef, mmmmm

The taste of empire