read it yourself you fucking pleb

lmao

if your going to ask for sources dont fucking moan when I dont quote mine it to prove my point

@wacka sure but i am in favour of equality of opportunity and also people generally being equal is a good thing

ah good.. youre not a marxist then... at least theres that

@brett0007wastaken ok man, calm down on the attitude, i literally gave a counter example and took the time to disprove ur pseudo-science and you do this...I think i might have to stop engaging with you

marxist value theory is the stupidest idea anyone came up with since transpiecesation

>provide a scientific paper as a source to back my claims
>nope is bullshit

the only way to gain a proper understanding is to read the paper

@wacka well marxists can also believe in equality of opportunity lmao, I think i weird criticism and a weak one at that is taking equality to the extreme and to quote one of the 'criticisms' i have heard: "should we ensure everyone has 4 arms and legs? What if someone loses them?" I am sure you are smart enough to infer why this is a flawed point and unnecessarilly takes marxism to the extreme and is very unreasonable.

@brett0007wastaken chill out buddy, all your un-scientificness is giving the left a bad rep, also i don't feel like its worth to respond to that anger rant

well according to marx value theory .. everyone has the same value based on the amount of labour

@xlD4NKlx what?

so If I spend as much time painting a picture of a woman with a smile as divinci did.. my drawing is of the same value

labour theory of value?

@xlD4NKlx also cute you think im angry

also `Marx did not refer to his own theory of value as a "labour theory of value".` so marx value theory isn't a good name if you are referring to it @wacka

or is susan starts a job at 30k, but does well and 5yrs later is on 50k (but the same job)... then ben joins and should automatically be on 50k

@xlD4NKlx basically worth=time put into making it

i mean im not going to defend it since im not particularly a marxist, but im sure there are people who can competently do it @wacka and brush aside your potential misconceptions

there are no misconceptions - marxism doesn't work

^

it's is a fundamentally flawed ideology

as it does not model reality

he didnt call it the theory of value.. he refered to it as the law of value... still doesnt make sense

it works contrary to reality

well that to me is just an empty statement and brushes aside all of the complexities of it and is pretty ignorant ngl

that's why it always creates misery

its an observable point

wow, another guy who believes fascism and communism are the same? @Eccles and do you believe the nazis were socialist

why are you misrepresentin what he said then loading the question

`The labor theory of value is a major pillar of traditional Marxian economics, which is evident in Marx's masterpiece, Capital (1867). ... Marx argued that the theory could explain the value of all commodities, including the commodity that workers sell to capitalists for a wage. Marx called this commodity “labor power.”` @wacka

think about it... simple logic...
bill comes in and says I have direct contacts with every major fortune 500 company
John comes in and says I have zero contacts but I sell real gud

who is more valuable... arguable Bill would do even less labour but have more value

im simply asking what he believes in as it is similar to what louis thought and also there is probable cause for me atleast, to assume this but anyways.

@wacka smh analogies! 😠

oh you can paste stuff... I can paste stuff too "Contrary to popular belief Marx never used the term "Labor theory of value" in any of his works but used the term Law of value,[43]"

sure but i am giving you the definition lol, just in case bc u said u were confused... and also flawed points by you bc you cant compare these

no your correcting him on a moot point

i don't know where you go that idea from, ID4, fascism and communism clearly aren't the same, though they do share qualities that make both terrible

ANd clearly the Nazis were fascist and not socialist, but that doesn't change the fact their lineage traces directly from socialism, just as Mussolini's fascism did

But by all means keep on nitpicking about the fucking name of a theory

lmao im not really nitpicking wtf dude