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Private sector nurses are worse off though
And doctors are dependent
Not sure about that.
at the end of the day.. if more people use private.. they are still paying into the system... so theres less strain on the NHS but the same money going in
They have better wages by far.
Also emergency services are still NHS controlled
Nurses definitely don't
They do, it's why nurses are leaving to go private.
They aren't though
They are though.
I dunno about the wages... but the benefits will be better.. i.e better pension
They try it and then they go back to the NHS
Its why they're trying to do everything they can to avoid losing nurses.
Pension is better through NHS- they get a state one <:shrug:349342983763656705>
possible better wages on a per hour basis
Its the same reason the NHS clings onto doctors
Even though doctors (by right/law) should not be entitled to a public pension
no nhs people get final salary pensions
my aunt works in the nhs .. shes got a final salary pension
also she get it at 55 .. and thats when she can retire too
That is the same for large chunks of the public sector (that put in lifetime careers)
I know another lady who in her older age (worked private all her life in the airline industry) got a job which she was only at a few months in the council doing admin, but she got a really good pension out of it
But yea there are private hospitals, and the general reason on why they are staffed is more down to locale than anything, in terms of pay, perks, and pensions the public sector is still more beneficial overall 🤔
I would say more people on private who can afford it the better
as a choice of course
Yea except it wont work like America without scrapping the NHS, because ALL of the emergency side are still NHS
Even with private hospitals
right but everyone on private is still paying their NI
Eh the public sector is beneficial to a degree.
Which is fine, the point is the more people on private the more the calls of "well I don't use the NHS so I don't want to pay for it" will increase
and its not like the US because in the US they have to do a lot of admin to check if you can receive medicare
whereas in the UK its easy because everyone is
In the NHS which is basically a huge rationing service it doesn't lead to huge benefits.
The issue is they aint rationing
I mean they are.
People expect the NHS to do everything because "my taxes pay you" or "I got told its free here"
And they do the best they can with what they got
Eh. That's a great explanation for why you should expect little out of state services.
Not really
even if all of the top 20% get private healthcare theres still not enough people to get rid of the nhs... and even those 20% .. most of them will still want to keep the nhs