@Kunarian socially liberal, fiscally conservative

I feel like most people would identify it with a focus on economic prosperity (on a national or global scale) with no concern for other issues like identity or economic prosperity on more local scales.

pretty much what our society is @Kunarian

Except our society isn't that.

Unless you're giving some worldwide comparison.

Which seems pretty poor for understanding national politics.

The UK is socially conservative and fiscally unconservative.

People want more spending on all sorts of issues and in many cases don't have an issue with interfering in the market.

But they also generally support the death penalty and other conservative social views.

>socially conservative

Yes, I know for you Leohte any society that doesn't hate Jews is far too liberal.

In what way is our society conservative

Genuinely

What do you want to talk about because that's a huge fucking thing to discuss.

The plebs are a little socially conservative, but the urban elites and even rural middle class are batshit leftist and given that we're a first world country the middle class is huge

UK is way less PC than conservatives, lib dems or labour
although that does not mean they are all high tory social conservatives either

The death penalty is generally supported for example.

But it isnt in force is it

@Mokou Twitter isn't society. The UK has plenty of people who are middle class who are socially conservative.

If we define by public opinion then the british are much more reactionary than what the conservatives are

Yep.

I mean yes I suppose I am one of those myself, but I don't meet many

The conservative manifesto is primarily defined by equality

Depends where you live Mokou I suppose and even then you can accidentally be in a bubble.

My local seat is Con/Libdem swing if that's any indication

But the conservative party is socially leftist so

Eh

They're not.

They're socially centrist.

And probably will trend more Conservative over the years

Promoting anal sex and homosexuality to children is pretty conservative

lol

You have some incredible views Leohte

It's not like that's not what they've done

Ones perfectly consonant with reality? I know

Yeah except they haven't.

Ok to argue it's the conservative party directly that have done these things is perhaps a stretch, but these things have largely occured in their time in office

ah yeah ... those traditionalist catholic conservatives.. all about that anal homos

Who said anything about catholics

@Mokou True but the Conservatives aren't responsible for the batshit insane teaching culture that arose under Labour and fostered in the universities. They've not had a majority until now. And tbh unpicking these things in society is hard, even for a government. It's been a social war. One that people like us are slowly winning.

when you think "sex up the bum" ... ask what would jesus do... he'd be all up in that.. says the conservative