Yes, I know for you Leohte any society that doesn't hate Jews is far too liberal.

In what way is our society conservative

Genuinely

What do you want to talk about because that's a huge fucking thing to discuss.

The plebs are a little socially conservative, but the urban elites and even rural middle class are batshit leftist and given that we're a first world country the middle class is huge

UK is way less PC than conservatives, lib dems or labour
although that does not mean they are all high tory social conservatives either

The death penalty is generally supported for example.

But it isnt in force is it

@Mokou Twitter isn't society. The UK has plenty of people who are middle class who are socially conservative.

If we define by public opinion then the british are much more reactionary than what the conservatives are

Yep.

I mean yes I suppose I am one of those myself, but I don't meet many

The conservative manifesto is primarily defined by equality

Depends where you live Mokou I suppose and even then you can accidentally be in a bubble.

My local seat is Con/Libdem swing if that's any indication

But the conservative party is socially leftist so

Eh

They're not.

They're socially centrist.

And probably will trend more Conservative over the years

Promoting anal sex and homosexuality to children is pretty conservative

lol

You have some incredible views Leohte

It's not like that's not what they've done

Ones perfectly consonant with reality? I know

Yeah except they haven't.

Ok to argue it's the conservative party directly that have done these things is perhaps a stretch, but these things have largely occured in their time in office

ah yeah ... those traditionalist catholic conservatives.. all about that anal homos

Who said anything about catholics

@Mokou True but the Conservatives aren't responsible for the batshit insane teaching culture that arose under Labour and fostered in the universities. They've not had a majority until now. And tbh unpicking these things in society is hard, even for a government. It's been a social war. One that people like us are slowly winning.

when you think "sex up the bum" ... ask what would jesus do... he'd be all up in that.. says the conservative

Catholic tories? We 1690 now bois

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_28

I suppose Jacob Rees Mogg doesn't exist then

@Mokou tfw you're so big brained and centrist you skip 3 hundred years

The conservatives are not defined by Mogg, and you know it

No. Just a huge section of their party followed him in rebelling against May for a long time and his views are generally agreed with by many Conservative members and voters.

I know it's all fun and edgy to pretend like you're a "real Conservative"

But hating the Jews isn't really the trump card you think it is Leohte.

>by voters

We just said that we should look at their policy from the source, not from the voter base