Message from @Kunarian

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2020-01-23 20:15:14 UTC  

It certainly is ironic since it seems to be Labour Members who constantly bring up the NHS

2020-01-23 20:20:59 UTC  

Is there any knowelge about what the deal will be?

2020-01-23 20:28:09 UTC  

Whatever May's deal was but with her name crossed out

2020-01-23 20:29:44 UTC  

lol

2020-01-23 20:29:56 UTC  

Someone doesn't have much actualy knowledge on the deal I see.

2020-01-23 20:30:31 UTC  

Well it will be similar to May's deal

2020-01-23 20:32:18 UTC  

I do love how there is very little neutral ground on Blair in that poll. Everyone has an opinion on Blair

2020-01-23 20:34:12 UTC  

@The Electric Lizard I mean a good heaping of May's deal was normal logical stuff you would expect. It was where she went out of her way to chain us to the EU that was bad. And tbh that's been trimmed off.

2020-01-23 20:34:33 UTC  

is right, its just that retards treat them like poor oppressed minorities. Its why "islam is right about women" breaks them mentally

2020-01-23 20:35:03 UTC  

@Comando Blair is hated because he did Iraq. And therefore everything he did is wrong and haram. Like winning elections. ***ABSOLUTELY HARAM***

2020-01-23 20:36:55 UTC  

Unironically nearly everything Blair did was in fact wrong.

2020-01-23 20:36:58 UTC  

Well the war with Iraq was stupid

2020-01-23 20:37:05 UTC  

Oh I agree.

2020-01-23 20:37:18 UTC  

But if you were a member of Labour some things Blair did was "right"

2020-01-23 20:37:24 UTC  

Blair in many ways is worse than Corbyn, as any damage corbyn did would be easily noticable.

2020-01-23 20:37:24 UTC  

He is much more successful in terms of actually winning elections then most other people on the list though

2020-01-23 20:37:36 UTC  

Yep

2020-01-23 20:37:40 UTC  

and more successful in policies

2020-01-23 20:37:45 UTC  

ridiculously so unfortunately

2020-01-23 20:37:52 UTC  

blair had the surprise bumsecks with constitutional stuff and nobody really noticed

2020-01-23 20:38:02 UTC  

How is Brown higher then Wilston?

2020-01-23 20:38:10 UTC  

Wilston had much more success

2020-01-23 20:38:26 UTC  

Yup. Blair sacraficed the poor of his time in several ways to push forward his own more systemic changes

2020-01-23 20:39:07 UTC  

everything wrong today can be traced back to B.liar.
He was a globalist though and though

2020-01-23 20:39:08 UTC  

When Blair singlehandedly undos most of the Tories resistance to minimum wage/various social policies/market interventionism and even smashes the Eurosceptics across the board but he is haram and not to be immitated.

It's like watching an army disarm themselves because they had a dictator whose army used guns therefore guns must be bad.

2020-01-23 20:39:10 UTC  

To many it was percieved that Brown was dealt a bad hand, by Blair(forgetting that he was the chancellor under Blair, therefore was the man in control of the money)

2020-01-23 20:39:23 UTC  

It seems almost like the more elections they win the more the party hate them

2020-01-23 20:39:36 UTC  

Brown engineered the shitty economic situation and gave all the blame to Blair hilariously enough.

2020-01-23 20:40:24 UTC  

And then when Blair wasn't there to limit Brown. Brown went fucking nuts with spending and then Labour blame the Tories for somehow managing to reign that shit back in without a full on economic depression.

2020-01-23 20:40:51 UTC  

Naa

2020-01-23 20:41:24 UTC  

It was more complicated than that. We just went along with the same shitty policies various banks and think tanks advocated that we do at the time.

2020-01-23 20:42:15 UTC  

Then boom, crash. The worst thing about the crash was that Brown didn't immedaitely begin prosecuting the bankers responsible, but that's the same in most countries.

2020-01-23 20:43:20 UTC  

Oh sure it was more complicated but I wasn't trying to delve that deep. Blair is the defining image of a career politician and a successful one at that. Did what the special interests wanted, kept his party under control to angle it towards more terms for the sake of more terms and basically used taxes from economic growth to bribe voters into voting Labour.

2020-01-23 20:45:12 UTC  

I do just think Brown gets a tiny bit of a bad wrap. There were a few things Blair could have done, that he was prevented from doing, and most of those things were prevented by Brown, weirdly.

2020-01-23 20:49:40 UTC  

Brown wanted Blairs position. And eventually he got it.

2020-01-23 20:50:04 UTC  

Blair is a shabbos goy