Message from @Mavalance
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Depends
depends on how invasive and specific they are
Is authoritarianism being taken into account and also the implementation matters
Blaire moved the labour party right-wards to the centre ground to make them electable
THis is universally acknowledged as being representative of reality
this sort of bickering is kinda gay imo
it just depends where you put center
Momentum + Corbyn dragged Labour way to left, making them unelectable int he process
So unless you're claiming Blair's Labour is politically equivalent to Corbyn's Labour party, you're talking shit
If you believe that authoritarianism is right wing the maybe social programs are right wing but if you believe the opposite then maybe it’s left wing
no, authoritarianism is not right wing
social programs are not right wing
you could say mainstream "conservative" parties are left wing in the sense they're basically progressives on speed dial
Lol
progressivism is inherently left wing
Depends on the nation
not at all
Ye
progressivism is the autonym of conservatism
by the very definition of the words
also in'
Is conservatism right wing though?
i'm not interested in how they're used
but that is something that matters
not interested in post-modernist arguments
You seem to be mashing a whole load of ideologies and principles down according to your own political beliefs
nah, that's you
Lol
i'm using well establised definitions
Im literally supportiing your ideas
-long- established definitions
I was talking to Eccles
the definitions of words that are generally accepted and understood
And yeah I’m sure you are Eccles
you're trying to bend and repurpose, or entirely undermine definitions in order to make your twisted logic fit
Lol
both prescriptive and descriptive definitions are legit
Blair's Labour and Corbyn's labour are clearly not in the same space, politically
The twisted logic of each nation has its own form of left and right?
I don't know why you'd even think to refute that