Message from @Hopix

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2020-02-11 17:53:44 UTC  

Someone hasn't told this fuck about collective responsibility

2020-02-11 17:54:28 UTC  

@PureEvilPie yeah, it appears to have played out in a left vs right way tho - but that's just a product of our oppositional system imo

2020-02-11 17:54:40 UTC  

but inside the labour party it appears to have played out the same way

2020-02-11 17:55:07 UTC  

but with the labour right being remain and the labour left being leave

2020-02-11 18:16:34 UTC  

The old-old-guard labour are very much anti-EU

2020-02-11 19:05:30 UTC  

I'd say Brexit is centrist

2020-02-11 19:06:06 UTC  

just looking over some headlines of the day...
independant: EU tells Boris his deal sucks
Daily Express: Javid says EU will crumble
Daily Express: Von derLeyen says WTO is fine by us, bring it on
daily express: Brexit WAR!! Spain joins france and denmark
Guardian: Von der Leyen mocks Boris on EU deal

2020-02-11 19:06:44 UTC  

So a couple of things to note there

2020-02-11 19:06:56 UTC  

Guardian says the opposite of Express

2020-02-11 19:06:58 UTC  

Someone

2020-02-11 19:07:00 UTC  

Somehow*

2020-02-11 19:07:30 UTC  

And EU telling us our deal sucks, likely means that it's good for us, shit for them

2020-02-11 19:07:42 UTC  

What's this about the Brexit war?

2020-02-11 19:10:46 UTC  

why the fuck should they have that right

2020-02-11 19:10:49 UTC  

it's our waters

2020-02-11 19:10:55 UTC  

seems pretty easier to defeat that alliance.. say we'll give one of them some access... let them fight about who gets it

2020-02-11 19:11:23 UTC  

Or just charge a fuckton for permission

2020-02-11 19:11:53 UTC  

thinking about... that would be like an epic move 😛 saying ok we'll give only 1 nation in the EU access to our waters.. and you guys have to decide which

2020-02-11 19:12:09 UTC  

it does sound interesting

2020-02-11 19:12:28 UTC  

are they allowed to rotate each year or whatever?

2020-02-11 19:12:49 UTC  

no

2020-02-11 19:13:01 UTC  

haha, cus that's what I'd do

2020-02-11 19:13:03 UTC  

the point is to cause arguments 😛

2020-02-11 19:13:06 UTC  

Tell them they can fish in our waters if we can fish in theirs, given they think fishing in other people's waters is a right

2020-02-11 19:13:17 UTC  

yeah... no brainer tbh

2020-02-11 19:13:20 UTC  

why don't we just do that

2020-02-11 19:13:36 UTC  

no thats what we already have.. 😛

2020-02-11 19:13:47 UTC  

we fish 100k tonnes of fish from their waters per year

2020-02-11 19:13:51 UTC  

yeah, but this is talking about when we leave proper isn't it?

2020-02-11 19:14:12 UTC  

and the EU fish 700k tonnes of fish from our waters

2020-02-11 19:14:20 UTC  

per year

2020-02-11 19:16:35 UTC  

I know, but after the transition, something new has to be agreed bilaterally

2020-02-11 19:17:09 UTC  

Obvious solution would be to just continue as we are then, we fish in theirs, they fish in ours

2020-02-11 19:21:11 UTC  

But our fishermen don't want that.

2020-02-11 19:21:34 UTC  

And they were a big Brexit voting bloc

2020-02-11 19:21:46 UTC  

Yeah that's true

2020-02-11 19:22:07 UTC  

In that case, we fish in our own, they fish in theirs

2020-02-11 19:22:32 UTC  

at worst they would want direct payment for the fish the EU takes

2020-02-11 19:24:38 UTC  

Just call in big bad America