Im only talking about their public healthcare

and our public healthcare

Which is a flawed analysis.
Apples and oranges my dude

they pay $3trn in taxes a year which goes to healthcare that most of them dont have access to

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Totally separate note Wacka - we don't do contact work, only full time sorry mate

I think low income earners, OAPs and veterans get access

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Yeah it's a broken system - everyone agreea

Nah, vets get a special hybrid

OAPs get an NHS like service.
Ultra poor have different options

The reason they complain about oap care is because it's like the NHS.

I.e. they choose who to treat who dies ect

I assume they could get private if they wanted

Waiting times before and after retirement are months apart literally

Yeah most OAPs have private in the usa

Sorry, most sensible oaps

You can negotiate that into your employment package and 401k (pension)

and most people in the UK have private too... through work or just private (although I dont think that many take up just private on their own)

and theres people like my mother who had private and just hardly ever used it

cos theres an excess and the treatment isnt much different

Through work stuff in the UK is actually a terrible system.
It encourages doctors to flee the NHS after we paid 100% of their tuition

> most people

don't say that

If the doc paid for his education he should go wherever he wants, if the state did I want to see a loyalty cause in the contract

@Jes i've advocated in the past for us putting a binding term on doctors, they work for the NHS for 10 or 20 year mandetory before they can leave, and the state swallows the education burden

We already do it for teachers

Certain subjects at least

but we stagger the "pay-back" of the tuition in such a way that after x years a % is paid back, so that people can choose to leave early and own the cost personally

to be fair, i wouldnt expect that in other areas... like if british people got a grant for IT courses...

so for example, say we go with 20 years for free education: after the 10th year each additional year brings your debt 10% down

I'm down with that.
Say it's 1 mil in education. You leave before year 20 it's 50k a year you owe

Now there is a down side

@wacka this is talking to make it free

so society prioritises doctors

Doctors are already a free course in the uk

sweeping reform

The doctorate part at least

it would be politically painful

but we need to sort out the incentives here

is that still the case though? I thought brown ended education grants... or might have been DC

Abolish the GP system, it's a quasi-private system

i'm ok with a mixture of public and private