“1. Things are happening, some of them bad.
2. Underpants........
3. Therefore fascism is preferable to the impending dystopia!”

Yeah tbh I agree with step 3. With the way shit is going rn I’d prefer living under Mussolini, because __at least__ then my nation could recover afterwards.

Hint: Hitler is the reason why white supremacists can't get a foot in the door these days.

He's the catch-all to stop any WN argument dead in its tracks.

So if you want anything even remotely close to WN, ironically you'll have to take a much less radical approach.

Well Snake you might want to take a look at what happened to Italy. Hint it makes our current problems look like a vacation.

And ETB? My arguments about fascism and socialism would apply as much, if not more so to Mussolini who was not WN.

Right now sure, but I see blood in the River dude.... this shit is going to get really messy and really bad, soon.

AH so you are also from the school of imagined imminent catastrophe. Have I stolen your dreams and childhood Greta?

I mean, you can mock me all you want man, but we see the country is more divided than ever and that the center is starting to collapse, with both sides going to more extremes. I have data to support this

I mean, sure I guess political division on civil war levels of bad isn’t anything to worry about. As well as millions of Hispanics forming their own nation. Ik you don’t care for race so I’ll point to “culture” so 67 million families don’t speak English most of which is Spanish speakers

Time for Khorne when. Whoops, wrong chat, lol. Still.

As well as resource shortages, climate issues, refugee crisis, etc etc. I don’t think it’s as bad as what Greta says it is, but it’s still a problem added onto the other issues.

I guess none of that is a problem though. We should just act like normal consumers and go back to work while there is a massive pandemic, oh and also nuclear war is still a possibility

eternal boomer likes to deny the current political climate and all of the bills that either get lobbied for or even passed

Fascism is more preferable than to have this going on. I don’t think it would fix this problem. It’s just something I’d be willing to switch out with

in all honesty fascism is not a system that anyone would benefit from quick implementation, its a massive reform of corporations operating within the country as well as the government ministers in charge of everything, it would take many years to get anything running, and running under a peacetime economy would certainly change things relative to our real world examples

I'm not mocking you I am mocking the formulation that because of an imagined future threat one should embrace a known and proven threat. Hence my reference to Greta. Nor have I once denied the problems that exist.

I'd also correct your '67 million' stat. The census says 20% speak *another language* **In the home** and that for 10% it is Spanish. This is not the same as 20% not knowing English. If we are to address our nations problems we need to describe them accurately.

https://www.facebook.com/mises.institute/posts/10157637478183935

Rare based post from a lolbert institute

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Sure, @Jym but is that still not a problem and showing a cultural drift between the communities? Showing the division

And if I’m correct 20% of 67 mil is 13.4 mil

That’s still a problem

No you're still overlooking *speaks at home*. Like my familly is from Butchertown. Gr. Granpaw Nicht Sprechen but Granpa Sprechen Engles just not at home. Assimilation is a process and it takes generations. In the current era illegal immigration is the problem because of the disproportionate number who all speak the same language and share similar cultures. Legal immigration is not primarilly Spanish speaking.

That's what I was saying about correct information about the problem. We need to diagnose accurately.

Yep, but assimilation is impossible at the moment. I mean do I have to go through how the dems are making it impossible?

The DNC is entirely off the rails. I mean I said, half a dozen times, that I recognize the problem. This does not mean endorsing worse 'solutions'.

But uh I agreed, fascism isn’t the solution, simply that I’d prefer it over this (that being the road later down into the future)

inb4 dragging democrats through the streets by their intestines

Oh I prefer our current problems to socialist problems. There's this great Interveiw with Charles Murphy where he talks about the superior social cohesion in the 50s and then he says, "If you had a time machine to take me back there you would have to drag me kicking and screaming."

mustve been nice being able to live without worrying about getting attacked by a black person tbh

Violent crime, across the board is much lower now.

but ask yourself where is it happening and who is it happening to lol

It's happening mostly to poor people in poor neighborhoods by other poor people. Which is no different than before. The difference is the lower rate.

then by a converse the amount of non poorfags getting attacked is increasing

and the amount of crime of nigs hurting non nigs increases

Nope. It is decreasing across the board and has been since the 90s.

@Jym you’ll find this funny

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/602827203708846080/679549841986158603/1543202277737.webm

X amount of people die in war the U.S. and 50 other countries are involved in... all casualties must be by U.S. This sort of logic is always so weird and it really bothers me

Or the idea that if we pull out out troops it's the end of the war as if the war won't continue if we weren't there. Imagine that being the strategy to end WWII, if we just pull our troops out, the war magically ends! It's so bizarre but it's accepted like it's a fact
Simply by redefining something, the start of the war being our involvement or whatever, even if objectively the war went on way before we got involved, people start to believe it's true or, treat it that way even if subconsciously they know better. It's truly the Orwellian, the power of the manipulation of language. The Iraq war as started when Saddam began massacring the kurds and trying to invade other countries like Kuwait, not the day american boots arrived, and it won't end the day american boots pull out, as evidenced by Turkey and Iran trying to invade the various countries once we just announced we might pull out. A power vacuum, at no point in history has ever resulted in less violence or by itself ended a war. It's kind of absurd really the more you think about it.

It's not like when we pulled out of Vietnam, the war in Vietnam ended, millions of people were slaughtered by the Viet Cong. Or when we pulled out of Iran, that Iran became a magical Utopia. Or even when the British pulled out of India, Rhodesia, South Africa etc. that these countries after a major power vacuum suddenly became wonderful countries with no violence. The whole thing seems silly to me. <:hyperthink:462282519883284480>

Socialism in Russia failed because it tried to impose an atheist ideology onto a deeply religious country.
Socialism in the UK has to be nationalist, as the actual English socialists, in places like Birmingham and Manchester, are actually deeply patriotic. (I’m not ralking about the imported socialists, they don’t count. I’m talking about the English men and women who were inspired by the Russians.)