Message from @ETBrooD
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> Find me a study which shows that stereotype threat has any effect on the black white IQ Gap.
That wasn't my argument, you're strawmanning me again.
.... Do you know what Stereotype threat means?
Do you know what a strawman is?
> So therefore this:
> Is simply ignoring a key issue - humans respond to superficial stimuli, and that includes skin color. We are (some people more, some people less) affected by such things and no matter how much we pretend not to be, we can't shake it. So to ignore race as a meaningful factor in our daily life is foolish.
@ETBrooD
Okay, sorry, guy instincts led me to believe you were referring to IQ here.
If you aren't, then your just saying things and making claims.
I was talking specifically about racial relations. How well we get along with each other when accounting for superficial factors like skin color.
Skin Color isn't a superficial factor.
It is highly superficial. There are tons of different shades and they make very little objective difference in regards to human capability. Skin color literally doesn't matter objectively speaking, what matters is gene expression.
Your very wrong, I will take a shower then come back and debunk you. We aren't talking about "skin color" here, we are talking about Melanin levels, which are absolutely linked to one's behavior.
I'm talking about social relations, not one's own behavior unrelated to social factors.
My argument pertains to racial relations and nothing else. How skin color affects us in everyday life, often subconsciously.
That impact is very strong. We pick our partners according to their skin color, which means there's no way to "solve" or otherwise circumvent the "problem" of racial preference, i.e. prejudice in everyday life, since sex and romance are two of the most important things in our lives.
The entire culture is affected by this, and since we can't "smell genes" or "smell melanin" this has nothing to do with either of those things. It's about the color and whatever behavior people of different races are displaying.
So the social relations are driven by superficial factors. This is very hard to deny.
Objectively nothing stops us from going all multicultural, but for some reason we don't. That's not because of anything deep under the skin, it's because of the outward, the superficial.
Men often weed out potential mates in a split second, and that is entirely superficial. Women do the same, although perhaps less strongly so.
So self-segregation of the race is inevitable. Meaning racial relations will always be difficult, unless all the races are equal otherwise - which they're not.
My point is basically, the more the government tries to create a multicultural society, the more it rips apart the fabric of society.
Ford and snake get this completely right.
I actually did a self-test one time. I looked at the top 50 or so image results on google, one time for white women, one time for black women. My preference for lighter colors was very clear.
I simply went with who I feel the most attracted to. Only whether I'd date them at all (just give them a chance), or not at all.
I can't remember the exact ratio, I just remember I picked a minority of darker shades, and the vast majority of lighter shades.
> I'm talking about social relations, not one's own behavior unrelated to social factors.
@ETBrooD
What?
Social relations, the way people interact with each other.
Your own behavior is just your own behavior, you don't have to neccessarily interact with people.
The way we choose our romantic partners is heavily affected by skin color, this has been well established.
This is why people self-segregate, because dating, sex, romance, that's a key part of our lives. It's so essential that we build much of our life around it.
So racial relations will never be great in a multicultural society, regardless of how hard we try.
For example it reduces the number of closely available mates, making dating more difficult for people.
You make an insane amount of claims here without proof of a single one.
Wrong.
Dating preferences based on skin color are well established.
> Social relations, the way people interact with each other.
> Your own behavior is just your own behavior, you don't have to neccessarily interact with people.
@ETBrooD
"You don't have to interact with people." What?
If you jump rope at home, are you interacting with people?
> Dating preferences based on skin color are well established.
@ETBrooD
Another claim which you didn't prove, and an appeal to Authority.
It has already been proven, do you want me to provide a link?
By far the lowest response rate is towards black people.
https://qz.com/149342/the-uncomfortable-racial-preferences-revealed-by-online-dating/
Race=/=skin color.
That's what I said. Skin color matters in dating, not race.
Race is almost irrelevant. Two people of different races can have very similar looks.