imagine making an app that inputs votes and once the vote is inputted you cannot change iut

And you can bribe someone to fuck up a count

thats why you have third party organizations verify the app

Or just have incompetent counters.

@Mersenne like i said before that involves multiple people, a money trail etc
Actual evidence

Americans currently can’t verify that their ballot was cast for their candidate.

That’s the problem.

if the digital system leaves digital footprints then maybe id trust it more

you know what else has actual evidence? electronic systems. ip tracking, oauth, systems check, files checks

course bleachbit and hammers can fuck that up too

You can delete electronic data easily enough, "oops, all the evidence vanished because our servers crashed"

that would be a poorly designed app

Thats the point

Not really. Unless you secure wipe a system, they’re a mountain of digital evidence.

Even more so for interconnected systems.

if one server system crashes and deletres all your data, and you had no backups then you did something really basic, really wrong

did you know

You 2 are under the assunptions that nobody in governments are corrupt

that even apps like bleachbit do not wipe the data off fully?

Look, it’s the future. It gives us integrity we don’t currently have. And all of your concerns apply to the current voting system.

the only way to fully wipe a drive would be actual incineration

all of your concerns are applicable to the current systems

If they can kill Epstein and make up some bullshit reason, what do you think they'd do with electronic voting?

"whoops a fire started and brnt all the ballots"

as i understand it the only way to fully wipe a hard drive is to rewrite every single bit on it by force which is what bleachbit does

@Papa John's Day of Reckoning again, you need people to burn those votes

"oh i might have miscounted that 100-100 vote and thats why we got 101-99

People talk

you need people to bleachbit the servers???

its the same

and a burnt ballot cannot be recovered, a bleachbit hdd can

>bleachbit lmao

usually when you delete a file, the system just toggles it to be like... invisible, but its still there until that physical data segment gets overwritten which wont happen unless the entire drive fills up multiple times

@Pinks they mentioned bleachbit first lol

@Pinks nice pfp

you can just rewrite an entire drive with garbage data using command prompt in windows

Someone explain to me why you can't just command a drive to be erased by writing zero on every bit?

yes, thats how deletion works, bleachbit overwrites the files multiple times so that it is better concealed, but there are still traces of this having occured, such as a drive being all 1s or 0s, or being all random, not to mention that there are ways to still recover the data, at least partially even after 34 overwrites IIRC

Doesn't work that way.

Also you seem to think all zeroes would make it absent of data

A blank drive isn't all 0s