Message from @honkhonk
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Therapy and society are victims of children? <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>
who in western civilization takes an objectively proven victim of a crime and shames them? isn't that the complete fucking strawman feminists came up with?
For fucks sake. Trauma victims typically commit suicide ***because of the trauma*** - not societal perception.
Society does "hurt southern incest" "rape is evil" "fuck pedos and their friends and people that care about them"
Society overwhelmingly supports the victims.
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.... rapists aren't victims though....
That’s the flaw in your argument.
Kids that get molested by and large chalk it up as their fault in the long run so every attitude taken against the perp ends up pushing the kid further into self destruction
Because of how it is treated.
Instead of quietly and safely deal with it case by case. Let's parade the family through the news
okay, but that still doesn't support your earlier statement that society is directly shaming the victim
western society
And now you've got an angry, confused and self destructive victim
we're not saudi cavemen
Exactly the sort that is, statistically speaking, most likely to offend against minors.
Congrats lawmakers, you've made more victims.
Go ahead and remove the age of consent. That will **definitely** lower the number of victims and suicides.
I'm not advocating for child abuse, I'm advocating for protecting the future of the child and their world rather than turning it into a legal clown show.
.... ok I'm still lost, is this an argument against punishing rapists and pedos because their victims are fucked in the head as a result?
Why should we, rather than the victim and their family, decide who is punished.
... we don't... its usually the state
Who are we that we care so strongly about circumstances.
And who gives the state power.
what the actual fuck are you going on about here?
**Anime pfps always wanting to get involved with child sex**
If you think the legal system for *any* cases are good, or that violence solves anything, or that turning any groups into society's pariahs is a net benefit then sorry bruv, cause history shows you're wrong.
Rehabilitative justice trumps punitive justice.
It's not the threat of punishment that stops crime, it's the fear of being caught.
You make it a violent end, and the offender will only make more effort to not get caught.
This, again, applies to all law.
Not just the subject at hand.
ahhhhh ok........ wow you're really shit at making that argument, it sriously sounded like you were just saying the state shouldn't act in these cases
The state should act on a case by case to the best solution for the victim.
Not for the best outcome of the state's dignity.