Message from @PureEvilPie

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2020-02-16 13:00:05 UTC  

Privatize air

2020-02-16 13:02:31 UTC  

why would the free market have to do anything

2020-02-16 13:02:35 UTC  

government can sort it

2020-02-16 13:04:38 UTC  

@Hopix Because liberals and libertarians pretty much want a de facto abolishment of the government. Trusting that "market forces" supposedly stop companies like 3M and Dupont from creating and introducing non-degradable, bio-accumulative chemicals into the enviroment that ends up infecting innocent people's and animals water supply, making them sick.

2020-02-16 13:04:48 UTC  

i dunno if liberals so

2020-02-16 13:04:56 UTC  

they're more pro gov than libertarians

2020-02-16 13:05:32 UTC  

you can't trust corporations to look out for the little guy, so you need a firm government

2020-02-16 13:05:39 UTC  

liberals do*

2020-02-16 13:06:06 UTC  

The lack of government restrictions on the business practices of 3M caused this mess, and people are showing test results of PFOS in their blood all over the world. Yet 3M evades all accountability and responsibility.

2020-02-16 13:06:38 UTC  

Proving that trusting societys course of action to "the market" is totally foolhardy.

2020-02-16 13:06:59 UTC  

yeah I agree

2020-02-16 13:07:04 UTC  

government should've intervened

2020-02-16 13:07:21 UTC  

Of all franchises it's fucking Sonic that breaks the Video Game Movie Curse, holy shit.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678530619621507073/678588222191960117/Eggman2.png

2020-02-16 13:07:32 UTC  

I'm an advocate of a market that is free to do business within a legal and ethical framework

2020-02-16 13:07:53 UTC  

Poisoning people violates the NAP

2020-02-16 13:07:59 UTC  

Because even though 3M and Dupont knew that these chemicals were dangerous as far back as the 1950's, they still continued to manufacture them and sell them, claiming that they were harmless.

I wonder if the libtards believe that these kinds of business practices would be REDUCED by limiting or abolishing the government.

2020-02-16 13:08:39 UTC  

Libtards are pro government. They want more taxes to stop the global warming

2020-02-16 13:08:46 UTC  

if you abolish government you're left with a power vacuum, creating a corporatocracy instead

2020-02-16 13:08:48 UTC  

even less accountable

2020-02-16 13:09:42 UTC  

lol depends what you mean by libtards haha, classical liberals are pro government, "libtards" in the recent sense seem to be closet authoritarians

2020-02-16 13:10:24 UTC  

You want pure capitalism

2020-02-16 13:10:32 UTC  

Who does?

2020-02-16 13:10:40 UTC  

Then play outer worlds

2020-02-16 13:10:45 UTC  

oh right haha

2020-02-16 13:10:46 UTC  

It’s a parody but it could legit happen lmao

2020-02-16 13:10:49 UTC  

Everybody except ancaps would be against companies putting poisonous chemicals in the atmosphere

2020-02-16 13:11:09 UTC  

I've just been reading Sowell and he says this is one of the legitimate rules for government

2020-02-16 13:12:06 UTC  

Is Outer Worlds 1 or more corporations controlling everything?>

2020-02-16 13:12:12 UTC  

Because I don't consider that capitalism

2020-02-16 13:12:41 UTC  

It is one endpoint of capitalism if it is regulated properly

2020-02-16 13:13:15 UTC  

@Hopix I don't even think the "libtards" call themselves "liberal" anymore in the U.S. They've pretty much openly embraced socialism.

So the "libtard" label can go back to refer to classical liberals, instead of being incorrectly used on crypto socialists.

2020-02-16 13:13:31 UTC  

sure

2020-02-16 13:13:43 UTC  

But classical liberals are pro government

2020-02-16 13:13:48 UTC  

yep

2020-02-16 13:14:11 UTC  

Even though they try to de-legitimize practically all government action?

2020-02-16 13:14:18 UTC  

classical liberal =! anarchist or libertarian

2020-02-16 13:15:02 UTC  

"The govt shouldn't oppose drugs or promiscuous sex! We should be free to smoke as much crack and sleep around spreading STD's as we please!"

2020-02-16 13:15:55 UTC  

This is basically what so called "classical liberals" think.

They also oppose democracy, calling it "mob rule" and holding that the "rights of the individual" always trumps the rights or needs of the collective.

2020-02-16 13:17:46 UTC  

First of all, it's much easier to regulate big coal plants and prohibit them from releasing poisonous chemicals, than regulating what dicks and drugs people put in their body

2020-02-16 13:19:10 UTC  

Second of all, you don't have a liberty to poison another person, but you do have a liberty to poison yourself if you wish.

2020-02-16 13:21:44 UTC  

Apart from maybe promiscuity, which you have a point on, I wasn't aware classical liberals had those viewpoints