Message from @PureEvilPie
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Privatize air
why would the free market have to do anything
government can sort it
@Hopix Because liberals and libertarians pretty much want a de facto abolishment of the government. Trusting that "market forces" supposedly stop companies like 3M and Dupont from creating and introducing non-degradable, bio-accumulative chemicals into the enviroment that ends up infecting innocent people's and animals water supply, making them sick.
i dunno if liberals so
they're more pro gov than libertarians
you can't trust corporations to look out for the little guy, so you need a firm government
liberals do*
The lack of government restrictions on the business practices of 3M caused this mess, and people are showing test results of PFOS in their blood all over the world. Yet 3M evades all accountability and responsibility.
Proving that trusting societys course of action to "the market" is totally foolhardy.
yeah I agree
government should've intervened
Of all franchises it's fucking Sonic that breaks the Video Game Movie Curse, holy shit.
I'm an advocate of a market that is free to do business within a legal and ethical framework
Poisoning people violates the NAP
Because even though 3M and Dupont knew that these chemicals were dangerous as far back as the 1950's, they still continued to manufacture them and sell them, claiming that they were harmless.
I wonder if the libtards believe that these kinds of business practices would be REDUCED by limiting or abolishing the government.
Libtards are pro government. They want more taxes to stop the global warming
if you abolish government you're left with a power vacuum, creating a corporatocracy instead
even less accountable
lol depends what you mean by libtards haha, classical liberals are pro government, "libtards" in the recent sense seem to be closet authoritarians
Who does?
Then play outer worlds
oh right haha
It’s a parody but it could legit happen lmao
Everybody except ancaps would be against companies putting poisonous chemicals in the atmosphere
I've just been reading Sowell and he says this is one of the legitimate rules for government
Is Outer Worlds 1 or more corporations controlling everything?>
Because I don't consider that capitalism
It is one endpoint of capitalism if it is regulated properly
@Hopix I don't even think the "libtards" call themselves "liberal" anymore in the U.S. They've pretty much openly embraced socialism.
So the "libtard" label can go back to refer to classical liberals, instead of being incorrectly used on crypto socialists.
sure
But classical liberals are pro government
yep
Even though they try to de-legitimize practically all government action?
classical liberal =! anarchist or libertarian
"The govt shouldn't oppose drugs or promiscuous sex! We should be free to smoke as much crack and sleep around spreading STD's as we please!"
This is basically what so called "classical liberals" think.
They also oppose democracy, calling it "mob rule" and holding that the "rights of the individual" always trumps the rights or needs of the collective.
First of all, it's much easier to regulate big coal plants and prohibit them from releasing poisonous chemicals, than regulating what dicks and drugs people put in their body
Second of all, you don't have a liberty to poison another person, but you do have a liberty to poison yourself if you wish.
Apart from maybe promiscuity, which you have a point on, I wasn't aware classical liberals had those viewpoints