Message from @Death in June

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2020-02-29 04:55:23 UTC  

but go on

2020-02-29 04:55:37 UTC  

Can we just Civil War instead, it honestly skips all this mumbo jumbo lol

2020-02-29 04:55:39 UTC  

Whatever you can do on this island is a right, whatever you can not do is a privilege.

2020-02-29 04:55:42 UTC  

<:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

2020-02-29 04:56:00 UTC  

Now can you say whatever you want??

2020-02-29 04:56:01 UTC  

everything people call a right is in practice predicated on a service rendered by one to another, generally to protect that right

2020-02-29 04:56:20 UTC  

yeah you can say whatever you want on an island with nobody to challenge your ability to do so yeah

2020-02-29 04:56:34 UTC  

OK so freedom of speech is a right.

2020-02-29 04:56:41 UTC  

Unquestionably.

2020-02-29 04:56:41 UTC  

but why does that mean that

2020-02-29 04:57:07 UTC  

Because June, anything you can do by yourself on this island is a right, anything you can't do is not a right.

2020-02-29 04:57:13 UTC  

and why

2020-02-29 04:57:13 UTC  

Rights are relegated to the individual - Services require another's consent.

2020-02-29 04:57:18 UTC  

You can speak, believe anything you want.

2020-02-29 04:57:30 UTC  

But you don't have the right to shelter, education, healthcare etc.

2020-02-29 04:57:56 UTC  

This is ultimately the difference between rights and privileges.

2020-02-29 04:58:01 UTC  

you also have the right to swing your fist at any area on the island

2020-02-29 04:58:04 UTC  

I fixed Harry Potter

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678530619621507073/683176135223541771/harry_potter2.png

2020-02-29 04:58:07 UTC  

but when another person is there that can be challenged

2020-02-29 04:58:09 UTC  

<:slurpgon:583424900732157956>

2020-02-29 04:58:29 UTC  

you swing it too close to them and they might do something about it

2020-02-29 04:58:31 UTC  

same thing with speech

2020-02-29 04:58:34 UTC  

Death's correct here. That's probably the best example of a personal freedom or right that's restricted by a government.

2020-02-29 04:58:36 UTC  

if you say something they don't like

2020-02-29 04:58:43 UTC  

they might do something about it

2020-02-29 04:58:53 UTC  

Do you understand the concept I'm giving to you??

2020-02-29 04:59:07 UTC  

i understand it but i'm disagreeing with it

2020-02-29 04:59:09 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678530619621507073/683176410688520294/87964493_780430522365988_3698405345132019712_n.png

2020-02-29 04:59:20 UTC  

So you agree that Healthcare and College are not rights, but services?

2020-02-29 04:59:31 UTC  

Well that's the fundamentals between rights and services.

2020-02-29 04:59:35 UTC  

they're rights if the group with the most guns say they are

2020-02-29 04:59:45 UTC  

Except no.

2020-02-29 04:59:48 UTC  

just like any other right

2020-02-29 04:59:51 UTC  

<:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

2020-02-29 04:59:56 UTC  

I mean, June's not wrong.

2020-02-29 05:00:01 UTC  

Healthcare and College are services

2020-02-29 05:00:02 UTC  

every right is in practice backed by a service

2020-02-29 05:00:04 UTC  

Lol

2020-02-29 05:00:11 UTC  

Water is also wet

2020-02-29 05:00:14 UTC  

Rights are meant to imply an absolute nature to them.