Services are rendered by one man to another for payment.

People need to understand the difference.

Commies think you are born and are owed gibs for existing

no you just call less things rights mersenne

@lancelout Cause their econmic niggers

June again how can you have a right to someone else's income ?

Think of it this way June.

The weak should fear the strong kek

if enough people with enough power decide that lancelout

that's anybody gets any right

I'll agree with you entirely, governments really decide what rights citizens are entitled to. Personally, I believe it's more ephemeral - with "Personal rights" being life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness - essentially Freedom of Expression.

Oh look a post modernist power based argument

yeah politics is about power

June imagine this scenario.

You're stuck on a deserted island by yourself.

Healthcare and college are services rendered by one to another. They can't be rights if one individual demands the services of another without an exchange.

i hate this scenario

just throwing that out there

but go on

Can we just Civil War instead, it honestly skips all this mumbo jumbo lol

Whatever you can do on this island is a right, whatever you can not do is a privilege.

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Now can you say whatever you want??

everything people call a right is in practice predicated on a service rendered by one to another, generally to protect that right

yeah you can say whatever you want on an island with nobody to challenge your ability to do so yeah

OK so freedom of speech is a right.

Unquestionably.

but why does that mean that

Because June, anything you can do by yourself on this island is a right, anything you can't do is not a right.

and why

Rights are relegated to the individual - Services require another's consent.

You can speak, believe anything you want.

But you don't have the right to shelter, education, healthcare etc.

This is ultimately the difference between rights and privileges.

you also have the right to swing your fist at any area on the island

I fixed Harry Potter

but when another person is there that can be challenged

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you swing it too close to them and they might do something about it

same thing with speech

Death's correct here. That's probably the best example of a personal freedom or right that's restricted by a government.