Message from @Lucienne d'Anwyl

Discord ID: 683177327651323918


2020-02-29 05:00:04 UTC  

Lol

2020-02-29 05:00:11 UTC  

Water is also wet

2020-02-29 05:00:14 UTC  

Rights are meant to imply an absolute nature to them.

2020-02-29 05:00:17 UTC  

freedom of speech is predicated on the service provided by law enforcement

2020-02-29 05:00:28 UTC  

and courts

2020-02-29 05:00:39 UTC  

Yet you also can remain silent.

2020-02-29 05:00:40 UTC  

Fundamentally and factually, healthcare and college are services. They become rights under an authoritarian govt decrying that one individual must provide services to another.

2020-02-29 05:01:08 UTC  

Don't you hate when it rains in winter?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/678530619621507073/683176908623839242/20141020_012505.jpg

2020-02-29 05:01:16 UTC  

Anything that is given by the government can be taken away by the government.

2020-02-29 05:01:32 UTC  

The government can take away more than it can provide.

2020-02-29 05:01:34 UTC  

i don't see healthcare and college as being particularly different from something like private property rights

2020-02-29 05:02:01 UTC  

Well, one's a physical object that you've staked a claim to, protected by the government.

2020-02-29 05:02:02 UTC  

One is about ownership whereas the other is not.

2020-02-29 05:02:07 UTC  

The other's a service rendered by an individual.

2020-02-29 05:02:11 UTC  

They're pretty different concepts.

2020-02-29 05:02:18 UTC  

in both cases the "right" is predicated on certain actions taken with object legitimating some claim over it, to say that, if somebody makes used of x type of resources they must provide y type of service isn't really very different

2020-02-29 05:02:32 UTC  

the claim to the object is predicated on service

2020-02-29 05:02:33 UTC  

@Uksio wheres your hair?

2020-02-29 05:02:38 UTC  

Except you don't have a "right" to property.

2020-02-29 05:02:38 UTC  

i can see so much skin

2020-02-29 05:02:47 UTC  

i thought russians had dark hair

2020-02-29 05:02:51 UTC  

what do you mean kizza

2020-02-29 05:03:18 UTC  

You aren't entitled to property.

2020-02-29 05:03:29 UTC  

Just as you aren't entitled to healthcare or college.

2020-02-29 05:03:37 UTC  

These must be exchanged for capital.

2020-02-29 05:03:47 UTC  

Exactly.

2020-02-29 05:03:49 UTC  

Thus, they're not rights.

2020-02-29 05:04:12 UTC  

Because if they were rights, then homelessness would be considered illegal.

2020-02-29 05:04:17 UTC  

yeah but surely you think being able to own property provided you perform the correct kind of service is a right, right

2020-02-29 05:04:26 UTC  

No.

2020-02-29 05:04:34 UTC  

Something which you earn is not a right.

2020-02-29 05:04:40 UTC  

It's a privilege.

2020-02-29 05:04:40 UTC  

In simple terms, No Niggerism.

2020-02-29 05:04:42 UTC  

<:slurpgon:583424900732157956>

2020-02-29 05:04:54 UTC  

what's this? entitled kids arguing about 'rights'?

2020-02-29 05:05:00 UTC  

so do you think it would be okay for the government to say nobody is allowed to own any private property

2020-02-29 05:05:03 UTC  

Debating the difference between rights and services.

2020-02-29 05:05:30 UTC  

That would be stupid because then nothing is owned.

2020-02-29 05:05:31 UTC  

hmm. rights and privileges. products and services

2020-02-29 05:05:36 UTC  

you pay for services

2020-02-29 05:05:50 UTC  

@ManAnimal You are entitled to your smol pp privilege.