Message from @SYDWAD
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Inaction is not fining
social ostracism is an effective means of utilising collectives in a way that is not unethical
its no different than the ancaps that preach of the ancap and then argue that shooting someone in your lawn may cause your community to disassociate yourself from such cruelty if they see fit
It's like saying shutting my ears or not giving you good treatment for what you said is the same as silencing you
by artificially making it harder to do x you are limiting x
The pure capitalism works the way it is because of human nature, if you alter it to make it harder to run a company on your own thats an artificial limitation and its no longer free
Lol
It doesn't have to be and it really isn't
Capitalism has had many different iterations
pure capitalism is anarchy
Anarchy has many flavours
and a voluntary society takes many forms
Pure communism is freedom, Freedom from coercion, Freedom from force, Freedom to associate, Freedom from class and material slavery. By nullifying the value of property we can truly experience our subjective value of it.
anarcho-capitalism isnt anarchy, by having a set of morals the public follow and punish for breaking its not anarchy. There are diffrent amounts of anarchy in a system but anything other than the strong eating the weak its not anarchy
It's voluntaryist in nature
and as are many other economic platforms
what was the original topic we starded with?
there is no reason for capitalism to be the predominate platform, corporatism is just capitalism clinging to the state and ironically it's the only way it can be sustained
I doubt a free market can truly exist under capitalism
I suppose we were arguing on the nature of communism
and you argued it's anti-equality of opportunity, when I'd argue it allows total association and dissociation and gives more opportunity than any other system
"Pure communism is freedom, Freedom from coercion, Freedom from force, Freedom to associate, Freedom from class and material slavery. By nullifying the value of property we can truly experience our subjective value of it."
Absolute freedom is anarchy until the strong controls you. In communism are you free too hire people under you in order to manage them for more efficiency under a set task? then thats just a speech
there is a force of some kind stopping you from doing things that will harm the system
You could try to do so
but whats stopping them is that they get all the rewards you could give them and more
essentially making it laughable
but there is a force taking anything you give them and resetting it
making everyone *equal* again
what do you mean?
what force?
No they can keep shit
whatever system you have keeping the system in place, anarcho-communism only works if there are no humans
It works perfectly fine with humans
capitalism works and fails because of humans
*venezuela*
Why do you think the keynesians start throbbing when the market fails
That was state socialist
I'm not pro state-socialist
I would only seek Ancom given it were in a post-scarcity climate and involved a voluntaryist platform
rather than the coercion of a state and the lack of infrastructure and resource to conduct any transformation
communism always becomes socialism because they realize they need a strong hand to stop people from disobeying the system
How can you disobey a gift economy?