Message from @VexenX
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Where's the violence against those who are ruled?
As long as there was no dissent in the internal structure itself, it could last, but that would potentially have to be protected...
the most rudimentary form of governments only purpose is to protect the rights of its citzenry
"ruled"
usually through taxes
and taxation is theft
wrong
yes it is
y
taxation is theft
@AiarUther Why? Every man brings what he can, if he wants
pragmatism is the important principle here
Taxation, by definition is theft
The violence can be debated and broken down thusly... person A wants person B to do something that person B doesn't want to do. Person A has (over simplified) two choices, consequences for the disobedience or ignore it.
If they want to push their ideology on this one person, or group of people, at some point it comes to forcing them.
Yeah, see, I'm done. I can't even form a proper argument without being interuppted
It's text
@airuther taxation is only theft if its uses do not go to the principle goal of protecting the citizens rights
lol we're not even all having the same discussion
Sometimes that happens.
@SOTGOR If I put a gun to your head and demand money, is that not theft?
yes
v actually me with a snapchat filter, circa 2016
XD
what if I offer you a chocolate bar and demand you pay money for it
and demand you make that exchange
I won't buy the chocolate bar?
is that not theft?
no
that is an unwanted exchange