I think, JS is dirty either and inconsistent, but you have to use it in modern wep apps.

And therefore I like the isomorphic front-ends, where you don't have to inject things and other hacky stuff.

@Deleted User most people use ES6 and above

It is still dirty.

@Deleted User why?

you can pass multliple arguments to a function, and you will not get an error.

a function f.e. that was intended to have two arguments.

the whole type coercion thing produces a lotof headache.

yeah it does. It was a language made for the 1997 web not the modern one

JS I know a litle better than PHP. I never used PHP for a long time.

PHP has a lot of problems historically by facebook and Zend has done a lot of work to fix it.

Facebook is a disaster in my opnion. Way to slow.

They also developed ReactJS. But I like ReactJS.

Jesus

Do you ever tried ReactJS?

yes

don't like it?

I've spent 6 months doing just that

I have no opinion on it.

It is in combination with Redux quite nice, it is inspired by Elm, a functional web framework.

I don't care what it is inspired by

You have a global state, and then you change it over actions, and state changes can trigger changes in React components.

I only care that I can get stuff done with it

Speaking of ReactJS, I'm working on that stuff right now.

Caused an orgasm, it is perfect for prototyping.

React is pretty good, makes building websites with JS much easier in my opinion.

@meratrix so does vue, angular 2 etc

yeah, these are alternatives.

Vue is hyped at the moment.

yeah I know, I just know ReactJS already, so I'll use it when I'm doing small side projects.

@meratrix I managed fine for years with just jQuery, Handlebars and some event handlers

Well, I'm 20, so I haven't been doing this for years.

I am more a fun of the principle (e.g. Flux) itself.

@meratrix I am 35 and I have been doing this since I was 20

I am happy to ignore jQuery.

@Deleted User it was like heaven on earth when it was first out

and DOM manipulations.

React hides this all.

@Deleted User I know, jQuery was good for its time.

I am sure it does, but it is worth knowing what happens in the browser

I learned a bit of JQuery a while ago, but class I was taught in started with JS and then moved on to ReactJS, so that's what I use.